Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert MacDonald Ford


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was KEEP. postdlf (talk) 16:25, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Robert MacDonald Ford

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The only reference listed is a broken link. I could find almost no independent sources to verify that this person even existed, including on the site where the broken link goes. Wknight94 talk 01:50, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep As a former Washington state representative, he meets WP:POLITICIAN. Online sources are scant as he served six decades ago, but I found a few by searching Google News with terms: "Robert Ford" Washington state representative, or Bremerton state representative.  Here's an article from the Spokane Daily Chronicle.  Here's another one from the same paper, and there are many more from that paper. Here's one from the Spokesman-Review. Cullen328 (talk) 02:34, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, state reps meet WP:POLITICIAN. More refs definitely needed. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 02:42, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep With various searches found interview, official 1945 photo, official 1949 photo,, and letter of recommendation with signature. Dru of Id (talk) 03:03, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Found a (the?) primary source that matches most of the details in the article; I've reworked some, but it neeeds to be checked by someone more knowledgeable about CopyVio standards. Read my edit summary as well. Dru of Id (talk) 05:01, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Washington-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:15, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:15, 8 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment The vital info is from an unreliable personal family tree site. Can anyone reliably verify even his birth date or place?  Wknight94 talk 21:52, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Not listed at deadoraliveinfo, findagrave, or political graveyard; no local obituary seems to be online, so the 2005 legislator pdf was likely the closest thing to reliable source, and son's wedding & other announcements merely say father deceased or give year; daughter seems to not be noted beyond married fullname, and non-notable (adult) childrens' names didn't seem necessary. Dru of Id (talk) 22:09, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Crud. Currently available; merely lists name, district, & service period. Dru of Id (talk) 22:13, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Hence WP:AFD. If you remove everything sourced solely to that family tree site, you have almost nothing left.  Wknight94 talk 22:50, 8 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Passes POLITICIAN, whether or not most of the material is from an unreliable source. However, that material isn't defamatory or contentious and this isn't a BLP, so there's no real reason to remove it: no one has yet challenged it as inaccurate, and noting it as unreliable is not the same thing as asserting that it is incorrect. Jclemens (talk) 00:04, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Reliably sourced as meeting WP:POLITICIAN. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 22:30, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep He served in the Washington State Legislature. The article has citations. Thank you-RFD (talk) 12:45, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
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