Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert R. Bertrand


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The result was keep. Geschichte (talk) 19:18, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Robert R. Bertrand

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Non-notable sound engineer. Fails WP:ANYBIO because he was only nominated for an Oscar once. Mottezen (talk) 05:22, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
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 * Leaning keep. I mean, sure, anyone can be nominated for one Academy Award, but this particular sound engineer seems to have had a particularly lengthy and productive career. BD2412  T 06:03, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per BD2412. All Oscar nominees are by definition notable, even more so in this case, since the nomination was for Best Picture winner The Sting. Subject has hundreds of credits ranging over nearly half a century. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 06:09, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
 * All Oscar nominees are by definition notable Can you point me to the policy that says this? Mottezen (talk) 16:56, 6 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep per the above and the extra info found by BD2412.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 08:28, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment: The only secondary source that was added since I started this discussion was a wedding announcement in the Hi-Desert Star, a newspaper serving a community of 4,000 to 8,000 people. The article title starts with "Irene Scoggin", likely a member of this small community. Therefore, the paper only talks about the subject of this article because she's marrying him. If this is the best source this person can muster in "40" years of career (IMDb only notes 13 years), then this article can't be expanded beyond the stub it is and should be deleted. Way off of WP:GNG and not meeting any WP:SNG. Mottezen (talk) 16:56, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Much of Bertrand's early work as boom man was uncredited. The American Film Institute Catalog indicates that his first listed credit was in 1935. Furthermore, after decades of work on hundreds of projects, he was entrusted with the top sound position on a major studio film that won the Oscar as Best Picture and earned him an Oscar nomination. If that is still not notable then only a small number of sound men would be eligible for inclusion in Wikipedia. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 23:27, 6 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep. To me this sound engineer seems notable with being nominated with a Oscar and sound engineering in notable films and television programs. MoviesandTelevisionFan (talk) 23:17, 7 September 2021 (UTC)


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