Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Stearns


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) ——  SN  54129  20:45, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Robert Stearns

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Non notable pastor who does not satisfy WP:GNG or WP:RELPEOPLE. Celestina007 (talk) 03:06, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
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Keep My dear colleagues and friends, I am arguing to keep the page Robert Stearns up and running. Stearns is the leader and founder of the Day of Prayer for the Peace of Jerusalem, alongside evangelist Jack W. Hayford. Stearns has been covered in many, many forums such as Fox News, The Buffalo News, The Jerusalem Post, and the Christian Broadcasting Network. Yes, he pastors a church in a suburb of Buffalo, New York, but that is a part time gig for him and his main focus is his ministry Eagles Wings an the Day of Prayer. He has also written articles in the New York Times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KittyHawk2015 (talk • contribs) 18:17, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 * feel free to provide in this AFD those reliable sources you make mention of that prove notability of the subject of your article. Celestina007 (talk) 18:34, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Celestina007 I have cited all of the citations needed in the article, if you click on them, you will see his publications in the New York Times, coverage by Fox News, articles in the Buffalo News and Jerusalem Post. Check them out! — Preceding unsigned comment added by KittyHawk2015 (talk • contribs)
 * But these a "trivial mentions" as far as I can see. -- Scjessey (talk) 18:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete - Fails to meet the General Notability Guidelines. I have been unable to find a single reliable source that is chiefly about this individual. Even in his field, he fails WP:RELPEOPLE in that he has made no significant impact on anything whatsoever. -- Scjessey (talk) 18:30, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 * {{u|Scjessey]] My friend, Scjessey, with all due respect, he founded the Day of Prayer for the Peace of Jerusalem, which, in it or itself is a massive undertaking and has had worldwide impact. He's a guy who started a movement that Presidents, foreign dignitaries, American elected officials and appointed diplomats, and over 100 million Christians and Jews worldwide have participated in.  That, my friend, is a massive undertaking much larger than what the average person has done.  My dear colleagues above have sourced books and papers, editorials and articles, in which Stearns participated in.  Please keep this page up, as this man is obviously noteworthy and has done way more than most individuals in the realm of religion and mainly Judeo-Christian values and relations.  I hope no one gets bogged up on the fact that he's the pastor of a medium sized congregation, because that's not his main focus.  -KittyHawk2015
 * uhhh! Apparently we aren’t allowed to !vote keep twice which you just did Celestina007 (talk) 17:52, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * {{u|Celestina007}} my bad! Didn't realize that was a casted vote.  Consider it void!  Just responding to the other user.  -KittyHawk2015.
 * Just a heads up, while AfD might look like a vote, it doesn't operate like one according to WP:Vote. Mustardscuffle (talk) 05:09, 7 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep a news article does not need to be an encyclopedia bio entry to be a non-trivial source. The sources KittyHawk2015 provided demonstrate notability.--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 03:57, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I found this article he wrote in the NY Times. An extensive discussion of his influence can be found here:  and a lesser one here: . --Epiphyllumlover (talk) 04:04, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * There is good coverage of him here:, and a smaller amount of coverage of him here, if you can access the paywall:, and in this book:.


 * Keep a prominent pastor.NotButtigieg (talk) 12:33, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. He once wrote an op-ed in the New York Times, as have thousands of people. It was by him, but not about him. We need significant coverage "about the subject". Of the two books, cited, the first has a passing mention, and an ordinary "find" search of the second finds nothing. Bearian (talk) 18:45, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Spector, Stephen (2008). Evangelicals and Israel The Story of American Christian Zionism. Oxford University Press has significant discussion of Stearns views and activities.NotButtigieg (talk) 11:08, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * "search of the second finds nothing"--the link,, is to a search of the book for his name. Maybe you are referring to a different link?--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 22:39, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * link is to The Restoration of Israel: Christian Zionism in Religion, Literature, and Politics, which does indeed discuss Stearns in some depth.NotButtigieg (talk) 13:58, 8 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep Delete I am with Bearian here. We need non-trivial RS SIGCOV about this person to Keep. Wm335td (talk) 19:51, 6 January 2020 (UTC). more notability has been uncovered and the article has improved to Keep. Wm335td (talk) 20:36, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Such coverage exists, I will make time to add more. But if you look in the archives of Haaretz and the Jerusalem Post you will find a great deal of reliable, significant, detailed coverage of him.  He is, for example, the co-founder of the Day of Prayer for the Peace of Jerusalem and one of the founders and original directors of Christians United for Israel. NotButtigieg (talk) 00:15, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  NNADI GOOD LUCK  ( Talk &#124; Contribs ) 04:20, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I have coverage of Stearns from reputable news media and from books. I had some difficulty with the footnotes for the several discussions of Stern's work in Spector, Stephen (2008). Evangelicals and Israel The Story of American Christian Zionism. Oxford University Press.  Can someone help me figure out how to make several footnotes citing different page numbers?NotButtigieg (talk) 11:54, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Here is a profile of Stearns in the Jerusalem Post Evangelicals' role is to be an ‘articulate advocate’ for Israel, Eagles’ Wings founder says - Rev. Robert Stearns says he sees an even stronger relationship between Jews and Christians in near future. .NotButtigieg (talk) 12:58, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * That piece fails WP:INDEPENDENT as mostly quotes from Stearns without significant original coverage or evaluation. buidhe 04:32, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It is a long profile in a reputable newspaper. It is certainly WP:INDEPENDENT.  But if you don't like that one, google him, or take a look at the detailed coverage from Daily Beast near the top of the footnotes; the Daily Beast doesn't like him either, but they do cover him as a notable figure. NotButtigieg (talk) 12:26, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

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 * Hi. I have added maybe two dozen reliable sources: books, articles in reputable magazines and newspapers.  In addition to clarifying Stearns role in creating major organizations and events.  The problem with this individual/topic is not too few sources, but too many. I tried to use likely keywords ot pick some useful ones.  Hope this helps.NotButtigieg (talk) 15:09, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak keep per WP:HEY after extensive editing by {{U|NotButtigieg}} et al. Bearian (talk) 20:16, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
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