Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Tralins (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 14:36, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Robert Tralins
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I came across this article when investigating copy/pastes and realized the subject likely isn't notable. Although he's published a lot of works, I don't really see any credible reviews or news coverage that would meet GNG (or any accomplishments that would meet NAUTHOR). Correct me if I'm wrong though Sam-2727 (talk) 03:39, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
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 * Comment I see that the previous AfD discussion talked about his obituary. But are there any other reliable sources besides that? Sam-2727 (talk) 04:02, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete Weak Keep I did some digging and everything I found is in the article at the moment. Basically: pulp fiction author who wrote, among many, many other things, some nasty racist books in the 1970s. His most notable activity was to ghost-write a book (although he was credited on the cover) about prostitution that was labelled obscene and then got to the Supreme Court, which said it wasn't obscene. Doesn't pass WP:AUTHOR, nor is his notability inherited from the court case (which probably wasn't notable either—obscenity cases were a dime a dozen in the old days). On the other hand: he's interesting as an emblem of some of the more sordid trends in mid- to late-20th century American lowbrow fiction. Could live with this article as the stub it seems destined to remain; could also live with tossing it in the garbage. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 05:25, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Also would note the oddly extensive article in dewiki. I don't read German, but the article has a list of mostly English-language sources—none of which turned up in my searches. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 05:32, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Went through the sources cited in the dewiki article and they check out. He was listed in a few biographical dictionaries of writers at the time. I'm starting to be convinced that he was a known quantity; I changed my !vote above accordingly. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 05:59, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. Toughpigs (talk) 06:04, 26 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep: I found several more articles on Tralins from The Miami Herald and The Tampa Bay Times, which I added to the article. The racist and prostitution books were in the 60s — in the 70s, he started writing about the supernatural, and some of his stories were adapted for TV in the 90s. There's enough coverage to pass GNG. — Toughpigs (talk) 06:03, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: as enough coverage to pass the GNG. Archrogue (talk) 19:20, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep a deceased author with historical value and passes WP:GNG. Thanks! Jtbobwaysf (talk) 07:26, 27 July 2020 (UTC)


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