Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Tutak (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 03:36, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Robert Tutak
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The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing General notability guideline and the more detailed Notability (biographies) requirement. It was recreated with the new creator (I am not sure if they were also the original article creator, but they are WP:SPA in either case) noting on article's talk page that the sourcing is improved. I can't compare it directly to the deleted version, but the new sourcing is not sufficient and very much fails policies cited above as well as WP:CREATIVE. This is essentially a cv with primary references; no source seems to discuss the subject more then in passing, and even in passing mentions are simple film credits or such. Majority of references fail to mention him at all, at least one is written by the subject... In the end, it is worth remembering not all filmmakers are encyclopedic, and this article very much proves the point. Pinging participants of the first AfD: User:Duffbeerforme, User:Staszek Lem, User:SwisterTwister and User:AKS.9955. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 12:13, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
 * delete I double-checked the refs and not a single one neither speaks of notability nor covers the person in depth, and none of them is an independent reliable source per wikipedia policies. Staszek Lem (talk) 17:55, 29 June 2016 (UTC)


 * dispute delete IMDB, United Nation , International Documentary Film Festival Amsterdam Archive , DIALOG 9/1978 issue : Antonin Artaud: Teatr a rytuał by Robert Tutak is under General notability guideline. So further verification and contribution is needed. Adamme18 (talk) 23:31, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I frankly don't understand what you are trying to say. Nobody is disputing he made a few films, but not being a filmmaker does not make one autonotable. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 03:07, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. GSS  (talk) 12:04, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. GSS  (talk) 12:04, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. Still an overly promotional lovefest for non notable individual. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. duffbeerforme (talk) 11:11, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 02:57, 7 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete non-notable filmmaker.John Pack Lambert (talk) 06:55, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as I'm not seeing anything confidently better convincing, sources, yes, and still not enough substance. SwisterTwister   talk  18:45, 15 July 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.