Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert William Taylor (baseball)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  14:11, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Robert William Taylor (baseball)

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Subject does not meet the notability guidelines for baseball players Hirolovesswords (talk) 00:46, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions.  —Hirolovesswords (talk) 00:51, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions.  —Hirolovesswords (talk) 00:51, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. —Bagumba (talk) 17:36, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Comment Several secondary sources cited. Player was named to the Florida League's All Star Team in 1964 and had a notable if short career in MiLB as a pitcher. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theoriste2 (talk • contribs) 01:00, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * — Note to closing admin: Theoriste2 (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. —Bagumba (talk) 17:11, 14 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Minor league baseball player fails WP:BASEBALL/N by never having played at the highest level. Coverage is WP:ROUTINE with passing references in game summaries. This fails WP:GNG which requires significant coverage that "is more than a trivial mention."  The subject is WP:Run-of-the-mill and does not warrant an article. This article is indiscriminate promotion as stated in WP:SPIP, there need to be independent sources that "have actually considered the topic notable enough that they have written and published non-trivial works of their own" —Bagumba (talk) 08:04, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Player was in the AAA-rated Vancouver Mounties, which is the highest level class team in minor league baseball. Player was awarded to the Florida League's All-Star team. Much of the cited coverage is referencing player location and not meant to establish merit. Scanned newspaper articles will be added with biographies and interviews as soon as I can get scans.
 * — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theoriste2  (talk • contribs)  15:45, 14 July 2011
 * Comment Playing at the highest level of minor league baseball is not the same as playing in Major League Baseball. Per WP:BASEBALL/N, "Minor league players ... are not assumed to be inherently notable." —Bagumba (talk) 17:11, 14 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Not a memorial WP:NOTMEMORIAL states "Wikipedia is not the place to memorialize deceased friends, relatives, acquaintances, or others who do not meet such requirements." The article's creator and primary contributor, User: Theoriste2, used to use the account User:Theoriste, who's user page says is Deanne Taylor. According to an obituary for Robert Taylor, Deanne Taylor is his daughter.  While Theoriste2 may have a close relationship with the article's subject, Theoriste2's editing of the article itself has been unbiased to date.  However, Theoriste2 may have a conflict of interest in participating in this AfD. —Bagumba (talk) 17:11, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment This article isn't meant to be a memorial, but rather an informative link to a sports record that was, at the time, very good. For example, Taylor out-pitched eventual MLB Rollie Fingers in 1967 (but Rollie had a bad injury that year -- so that's not fair to use as a notable achievement per se). Beyond that, though, he's notable for his standing and innings pitched that year at least. If it's decided Wikipedia isn't the place for this record, then I have no particular problem with it.  Given that there seem to be some very fuzzy distinctions on what is 'notable' in terms of MiLB players, I can only present the facts as they stand.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theoriste2 (talk • contribs) 20:41, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * While I personally think his accomplishments are cool, I don't see how he could be considered notable under our current guidelines and I've spent a considerable amount of time searching. As for the distinction being fuzzy, I don't really see how that is.  The guideline is very clear at Notability (sports) and as he never played a MLB game, none of his merits qualify him for an article.  He may satisfy WP:GNG or WP:BIO but I can't find any articles that show significant coverage of the subject.  Ol Yeller  Talktome 20:25, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete "Outpitching" Rollie Fingers in Double-A, while subjective, doesn't confer notability even if established by verifiable sources. He pitched a grand total of nine games in Triple-A. I see no other evidence of BASE/N or GNG being met. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:17, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - -has not played MLB and doesn't separately meet WP:GNG. Bridgeplayer (talk) 12:30, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:BIO, WP:NOTMEMORIAL and WP:BASEBALL/N. User:Bagumba above makes every assertion I would have made. BusterD (talk) 13:07, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
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