Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Williams (Grambling State basketball)


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) ~ Amkgp  💬  20:01, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Robert Williams (Grambling State basketball)

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Simply does not meet either WP:GNG or WP:NCOLLATH. Was deprodded due to his winning his league's player of the year award, but that's not one of the qualifications of NCOLLATH.  Onel 5969  TT me 16:11, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  Onel 5969  TT me 16:11, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:20, 22 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep - sure he meets WP:NCOLLATH. Number 1: “ Have won a national award (such as those listed in Template:College Football Awards or the equivalent in another sport), or established a major NCAA Division I record.” The equivalent of the College FB award template is Template:Men's college basketball award navbox. Both templates show conference POY awards. Rikster2 (talk) 23:04, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment I can't find more significant coverage online and worry this might never be more than a stub per guideline WP:WHYN. However, an WP:IAR argument could be made to complete this otherwise ~99% completed list of Southwestern Athletic Conference Men's Basketball Player of the Year winners and allow the article to exist.—Bagumba (talk) 08:57, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Did you look at contemporary articles on Newspapers.com? I’d do it but my subscription lapsed a couple weeks ago and I am awaiting renewal. Rikster2 (talk) 13:08, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I did. Nothing significant, though sometimes you need to be creative to get stuff out of their search engine. I did a semi-quick pass.—Bagumba (talk) 14:49, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Conference POYs are generally presumed to be notable, so the only reason to delete would be if there was like no coverage. I saw a decent amount on Newspapers.com, although granted it isn't especially substantial. Still, this could be a solid stub, so I don't see a reason to delete. ~ EDDY  ( talk / contribs )~ 15:29, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per NCOLLATH. Also per IAR that Bagumba mentioned, specifically because Williams would be the only player without a page on the SWAC POY list-article. That said, I'll continue to look into newspapers.com to help beef up refs if possible. I'm also going to see if I can track a DOB (maybe DOD), which would help in the refs search. SportsGuy789 (talk) 16:37, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. For college basketball, winning a conference player of the year award is usually considered enough to meet WP:NCOLLATH #1. Ejgreen77 (talk) 10:43, 26 October 2020 (UTC)


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