Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robin Masters (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Spartaz Humbug! 03:06, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Robin Masters
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Minor fictional character who does not meet the general notability guideline and whose article consists mainly of a plot-only description of a fictional work without real-world perspective. There are no references independent of the subject from third-party sources. In fact, there are no sources provided at all, which makes the content original research. Jfgslo (talk) 22:38, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  —Jfgslo (talk) 22:45, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  —Jfgslo (talk) 22:45, 20 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep, Robin Masters seems to be mentioned in detail in numerous sources. If not keep, then merge to a character list from the TV series Magnum PI. Mathewignash (talk) 23:06, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * WP:MUSTBESOURCES. Please cite the sources in the article. Jfgslo (talk) 14:27, 22 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Article already has five sources, and being "voiced by Orson Welles" is not part of a plot.  Unscintillating (talk) 04:21, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Five sources that are not clear or cited within the text and which are trivial mentions. As an example, The guide to United States popular culture by Pat Browne has this about Robin Masters: "In return for free residence at the Robin masters estate, Magnum provided the security for the never-present Masters, whose voice was provided by Orson Wells, 1981-85." That is it. Same with the others. The only one that barely touches the character with something related to the real world is Crime television by Douglas Snauffer and merely commenting about a possible spin-off. This still is not reception and significance of the fictional character per WP:PLOT, neither significant coverage per the WP:GNG. Being voiced by Orson Welles is not reception or significance for the fictional character either. And the majority of the text is still WP:OR. Jfgslo (talk) 14:43, 23 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete or merge to List of characters from Magnum P.I. or merge to Magnum P.I.. Notability is not inherited - a minor character being voiced by Orson Welles is no more notable than a pizza delivery boy who was tipped by Orson Welles. The fact that this character was voiced by Orson Welles can easily be mentioned in the "List of . . ." article without being too taxing on anything more modern than a 4800-baud modem. For that matter, the entire article, once stripped of in-universe cruft and other nonsense, can be boiled down to a single sentence which can be added to the Magnum P.I. article itself: "Robin Masters: Alleged celebrity author/multi-millionaire owner of Robin's Nest, the estate mansion where Magnum and Higgins resided, and the owner of the Ferrari that Magnum drove. Portrayed by Bruce Atkinson and voiced by Orson Welles". Everything beyond this belongs on a dedicated Magnum P.I. Wiki, or the TVIV Wiki, or somebody's Magnum P.I. fansite - but not here. Badger Drink (talk) 08:20, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Character never appears. Only has context in the show itself. Szzuk (talk) 09:37, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.