Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robinson Trail Crossing, Arizona


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Some delete, some redirect. Please note that I've reformatted the list in the opening statement to use : instead of *, as the previous form thereof was breaking the XFDCloser. On the merits, it seems like there is a consensus to get rid of each article, but on a few there was a suggestion to use a redirect instead of plain deletion. Per WP:ATD that's been done where there was the suggestion, but each redirect can be contested at the usual places (WP:RFD in particular) of people absolutely want a deletion. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 10:04, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Robinson Trail Crossing, Arizona

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Next up in the not-actually-a-populated-place-much-less-a-notable-one spam after Articles for deletion/Road Junction Windmill, Arizona is river crossings (like Articles for deletion/Durfee Crossing, Arizona and Articles for deletion/Chair Crossing, Arizona (2nd nomination)). None show a town or village on GMaps and all are marked as locales Arizona National Gazetteer unlike the GNIS. I have linked sources found on newspapers.com that could suggest a redirect target. If you find more I missed it can be struck from this nomination.


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 * Hiking trail
 * Road across Chevelon Creek
 * Fishing site on the Black River (Arizona)
 * Fishing site, a mill burned down nearby
 * Someone was lost nearby,Fishing site on the East Clear Creek
 * Hiking trail
 * Javelina hunting site
 * A fictional serial in Kansas?
 * Hiking trailhead at East Clear Creek on the Mogollon Rim,
 * Crosses the Black River (Arizona)
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 * Reywas92Talk 06:16, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Reywas92Talk 06:16, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions. Reywas92Talk 06:16, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Crosses the Black River (Arizona)
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 * Reywas92Talk 06:16, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions. Reywas92Talk 06:16, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions. Reywas92Talk 06:16, 23 January 2020 (UTC)


 * delete the lot I took the trouble of looking at each of them on topo maps, and it's clear that there's no there there, with no structures in all but one case. One of them I couldn't find at all. Mangoe (talk) 02:25, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge each to its corresponding river article where possible, as many of these are significant as river crossings if not populated places. Otherwise delete except Wolf Crossing, Arizona should merge to Tolchico, Arizona as this book states "Near this crossing in the 1880s Hermannn (sic) Woolf kept a trading post called Tolchico, Navajo for 'river ford'".
 * In case it helps anyone else search (I don't have newspapers.com access right now) I also found:
 * The most likely candidate for keep seemed to be Mormon Crossing, of which Early Mormon Place Names in Arizona says "The place where they forded the creek still bears the name of Mormon Crossing. Once again, however, the would-be settlers found insufficient water to establish their hoped-for 'Valley of Agalon' and abandoned their homesteads in the area". I couldn't find sufficient sources for an article on this settlement (was it there for weeks, years?). Construction of Mormon Crossing (the bridge) and the approach road have some brief coverage but not enough to satisfy WP:NBUILD, but a mention of these in Chevelon Creek would be best, perhaps.
 * For Six Mile Crossing there are three pages here about wildlife and camping, with another such source it might pass GNG.
 * A "million feet a month" sawmill at Wiggins Crossing
 * At Cedar Creek Crossing "farmsites were not permanent camping places"
 * There might be something in The Prehistoric Occupation of Correjo Crossing, East-central Arizona
 * I didn't find anything indicating permanent settlement by more than one household at any of the othersPontificalibus 08:18, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I've now gone through all these preparing redirect targets and propose the following
 * Delete Robinson Trail Crossing, Arizona crosses an apparently unnamed watercourse
 * Delete Mule Crossing, Arizona nothing of note to mention
 * Redirect Kinder Crossing, Arizona to East Clear Creek where I added a mention
 * Delete Cedar Creek Crossing, Arizona the creek doesn't have an article
 * Redirect Mormon Crossing, Arizona to Chevelon Creek where I added a mention
 * Redirect Black River Crossing, Arizona to Black River (Arizona) where I added a mention
 * Delete Victorine Crossing, Arizona - crosses an apparently unnamed watercourse
 * Delete Wiggins Crossing, Arizona fails WP:GEOLAND #2 no suitable redirect target
 * Redirect Macks Crossing, Arizona to East Clear Creek where I added a mention
 * Redirect Wolf Crossing, Arizona to Tolchico, Arizona where I added a mention but that itself probably needs merging to Colorado River
 * Redirect Horse Crossing, Arizona to East Clear Creek where I added a mention
 * Redirect Six Mile Crossing, Arizona to Upper Burro Creek Wilderness where I added a mention
 * Delete Turkey Crossing, Arizona nothing of note to mention
 * Redirect Correjo Crossing, Arizona to Nelson Reservoir where I added a mention
 * Redirect Jones Crossing, Arizona to East Clear Creek where I added a mention
 * Redirect Crosby Crossing, Arizona to Black River (Arizona) where I added a mention
 * Redirect Escalante Crossing, Arizona to St. David, Arizona where I added a mention
 * Delete Rock Crossing, Arizona there are other more notable Rock Crossings that don't have redirects
 * Delete Booze Crossing, Arizona nothing of note to mention
 * Pontificalibus 10:33, 30 January 2020 (UTC)


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