Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rocca (Colombian rapper)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete without prejudice. Aside from the nom, the only delete !vote I found convincing was Hekerui's as it's not required for an artist to be notable everywhere. Normally, if he's notable in Columbia and France then that's good enough. However, this is an unsourced BLP so I'm going to delete it without prejudice. If someone wants to write a new sourced article it won't be subject to G4. Consider this a no consensus close. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:08, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Rocca (Colombian rapper)

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I cannot find sufficient RS coverage of this singer, reflecting notability. Others are welcome to try. Epeefleche (talk) 03:02, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - If he is notable, it is obviously in Colombia, for international artists the notability criteria is to be worldwide known or at least cited in several revenues, so if an artists is only locally known he is not notable enough to have an article within wikipedia. Eduemoni↑talk↓  12:29, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - He is very notable in France, he has 3 solo albums (discography http://musique.fluctuat.net/rocca/discographie.html)+ 3 albums with Tres Coronas + singles, mixtapes and so on. Sources: Partial discography - http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/artist/Rocca/a/albums.htm Article on French Wikipedia - http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocca .German page where it says his first album sold 70.000 units - http://www.banlieue-connexion.com/rocca.html .Report of new concerts in Paris - http://www.hiphop4ever.fr/la-cliqua-de-retour-a-paris-live-report/ --Damián del Valle (talk) 14:31, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Can you please indicate which -- if any -- of the sources you point to are RSs? Also, the French wp article has zero refs.  Similarly, see the comment below regarding the fact that the claim n the German wp article is similarly unsourced.--Epeefleche (talk) 19:33, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I repeat my question, as we need RSs to support any claim of notability. Thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:14, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 00:22, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Colombia-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 00:22, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 00:23, 15 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. His work with Tres Coronas seems to be the most notable as far as I can see. If deleted, the content should at least be merged into Tres Coronas under a "Members" section. Rennell435 (talk) 07:06, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi. I don't see how his work w/Tres Coronas satisfies our notability requirements.  I would have no problem with deletion, and merger of any appropriate material, however.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:18, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * And notability is not inherited. <b style="color:#913">Ed</b><b style="color:#C13">ue</b><b style="color:#D35">mo</b><b style="color:#E57">ni</b><sup style='color:green'>↑talk↓ </b> 19:31, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

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 * Delete no evidence for criteria in WP:MUSICBIO given and no links to substantive coverage and I couldn't locate any via search. The German page indeed claims 70,000 units sold but gives no source and is itself not a reliable source. Hekerui (talk) 21:45, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:24, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 20:02, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

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 * DeleteHe is only famous in Columbia and France, therefore he does not deserve to have a wikipedia article. Although the page states that his album sold 70,000 units, the source of this information is not given. --Asanti6 (talk) 14:32, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.