Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rochelle Porteous


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The result was keep. WjBscribe 06:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Rochelle Porteous

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Fails WP:BIO: a non-notable failed minor party candidate in subnational elections, who is also local councillor and activist, but database searching returns scant in the way of non-trivial reliable sources. Furthermore, article is severely biased. cj | talk 13:59, 28 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions.  -- cj | talk 14:53, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Unsourced article about a mere unsuccessful candidate for state parliament. -- Mattinbgn/talk 18:51, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Even from reading just this article, she's about more than her failures. Richard Pombo failed and still has an article. "Unsourced" means it requires sources, not deletion.  KP Botany 01:34, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Pombo is an entirely different kettle of fish: he actually was an elected representive for several years. Porteous is a failed candidate. What's more, the problem here is not simply that it is "unsourced", but that there are no sufficient sources existing. --cj | talk 02:14, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment People keeping adding these new criteria. Exactly what is a "sufficient" source, as you emphasized this so highly?  Please simply include a link to the page that describes Wikipedia policy on "sufficient" sources, as usual.  KP Botany 03:44, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep. She was one of the first minor party candidates in state history to be rated a serious chance at winning a lower-house seat. My database searches, in contradiction to CJs, turned up more than enough press mentions of her campaign and her time as councillor to warrant keeping the article. Rebecca 04:21, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh there are several mentions of her, but no non-trivial or substantive coverage that I could find from which one could create a verifiable article.--cj | talk 10:01, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - not taking sides but I cannot find any press articles that backup the information in the article. All of them simply mention her as a candidate or have one-sentence about her in a larger article. Fiona Byrne got closer to winning for the greens in the election, and almost bounced an Education Minister. There are some parts of Inner West Courier articles with commentary by her and also the Brisbane Times but nothing ABOUT her that I can see. - Peripitus (Talk) 08:10, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - Some more searching shows a lot of sources talking about her. The seat is listed by the ABC as the most likely gain in the lower house for the Greens and this is generating press. Even her time as a councillor appears to have attracted a lot of press with well publicised stances on environmental issues. Far more than I would have expected for a local councillor and more than I've seen for other minor-party candidates in state elections - Peripitus (Talk) 09:14, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete, a lot of the sources I can find that discuss her are either not reliable, or just offhand mentions that she's running for the seat. Lankiveil 09:39, 29 April 2007 (UTC).
 * Keep The Greens vs Labor contest in the seat of Balmain was one of the more publicised of the New South Election. Hence the candidate in my view fulfils notability criteria. Its also necessary to provide context for the page(s) on the election. Recurring dreams 00:34, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
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