Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rock Court


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Cleveland Heights, Ohio.  MBisanz  talk 04:44, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Rock Court

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Minor non-notable road whose only claim to fame appears to be that some people once painted some murals there. Note: subject to blanking by an IP who has also made legal threats, saying that he owns both houses in this road and the article is an invasion of privacy. I don't see this as relevant - it's simply not notable Black Kite 10:59, 3 April 2009 (UTC) I wrote this article and posted the photos. The article is purely of local interest and mostly a relic of the past. This street was the most eccentric neighborhood in an eccentric area of the Midwest (and, clearly, what is left of it continues to be). Some sign of that may be seen from the murals posted, and others we linked to through the article.
 * Merge and redirect to the town article. The attempts to save the neighbourhood are clearly relevant to the history of the town as proven by the local sources, though not enough can be said to support a separate article. - Mgm|(talk) 12:20, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect per MGM above. Glass  Cobra  12:39, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect as noted. But if the same info is retained, beware the IP making the same complaint; so maybe some legal beagle could pre-empt that argument by finding out if there is any issue? For example, does posting a picture of that mural (wretched as it may be) violate the rules about "freedom of panorama" or whatever? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 13:02, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect to the town article. A minor mention of this would be appropriate. Tony Fox (arf!) 15:49, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect per MGM's sound reasoning. Drmies (talk) 16:46, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect as per MacGyverMagic. This seems like relevant history of the town in question, but we don't need a full article on the street. — Gavia immer (talk) 19:08, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete.  A street with some local history; but rather poorly sourced.  The campaign referred to in the article may deserve some mention in some article, perhaps the town article, if people think the subject is worth discussing there; but more and better sources are definitely needed. -- Ekjon Lok (talk) 21:59, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sure glad I downloaded everything from that article before it disappears. That mural looks priceless. Like a Rembrandt. Well, maybe Rembrandt when he was 2 years old. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 22:09, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Since the sources that are cited and that I can find, including page 91 of ISBN 9780738533889, are actually discussing Coventry Village, giving this street a brief mention within a broader subject, Wikipedia should do the same. I therefore suggest a merger to that article, rather than to the town's article. Uncle G (talk) 06:06, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good idea. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 06:21, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

This Rock Court article is not notable as is the one for the Terminal Tower. The fact is that if an IP had not complained, no one would care, and I'm sure the admins have better uses of their time. There can be no "invasion of privacy" of any individual as there are no persons identified, and photos record images of inanimate objects (a street sign and the side of a building) in public view. If you surprise me and keep this a discrete article, I can fn, citing to local newspapers and newsletters of the time. Do what you think is best. Swinterich (talk) 02:03, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Note - has been blocked (again) for blanking the page. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 02:29, 6 April 2009 (UTC) Note to self: The IP made an explicit legal threat to one user here  which led to his original block a few days ago. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 02:33, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Legal threat I believe that I figured out who our complainer is.  At one time, a litigant needed to ask for advance court permission to sue anyone on his own behalf as the Cuyahoga County Court of Common Pleas declared him a vexatious litigator.  That basically means a person who uses the court system to wage vendettas.  Here is the link: [].  Here is another link (note street address): [].  Being banned from filing lawsuits without advance permission is extraordinary.  No persons or private information are involved in the wiki article, and I am not concerned that anyone's rights are being trampled.  There is no legal exposure for a lawsuit over anyone's wiki edit.  (At least not from one guy in Ohio!)

I suggest that if you merge and redirect, consider doing so to Coventry Village, a closely-related article, by both geography and subject, rather than Cleveland Heights, Ohio. Swinterich (talk) 04:56, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Regarding legal threats, wikipedia's rules are that (1) we try to avoid potentially libelous situations, of which there is no evidence in this article; and (2) anyone making legal threats can do what they want as regards a suit, but they are not allowed to edit. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 17:16, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.