Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rocketeer Rollers


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The result was   delete. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:34, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Rocketeer Rollers

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Utterly non-notable "league": "league is made up of one interleague team"! Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  22:59, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:07, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

 In the world of roller derby, "leauge" is used to describe any and all the teams that the business has. For small leagues, it is often just one team; whereas larger cities have multiple teams under their league. Note, that while right now, there is only one team, there is room to expand and have multiple teams that will still fall under the same league. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nukie19 (talk • contribs) 14:45, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * comment - That's all speculative, and falls under WP:CRYSTAL and WP:UPANDCOMING, neither of which is a valid argument for retention. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  14:56, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

It appears that this has been overlooked in other Roller Derby League pages, i.e. Hellions of Troy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellions_of_Troy) and Sheffield Steel Rollergirls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheffield_Steel_Rollergirls) where they use the term League but do not identify any specific team or even use the word Team. So is the issue that we use both terms in our post? If we reword our page to only identify our overall League this will avoid confusion and avoid any forecasting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HIfiveOh (talk • contribs) 16:23, 27 June 2011 (UTC) — HIfiveOh (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * reply who is "we"? Anyway, that's addressing the symptom, not the problem. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  17:39, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

The term "league" in roller derby is interchangable with "team." It's used to include not just the skaters on the bouting roster, but all the volunteers and officials that make the game (and team) possible. It includes those that are not on the bouting roster, which there is a significant amount. Derbylady (talk) 22:35, 27 June 2011 (UTC) "We" are referees, non-skating officials, volunteers, bouting skaters, freshmeat, trainers and coaches. Derbylady (talk) 22:36, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * DL, I was asking who the "we" was in HIfive's post. Is that account being used by more than one person, or is HIfive speaking as a person with a vested interest in the Rollers? -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  01:47, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusion. I used the term "We" to mean the members of the league - officials, referees, skaters, etc. This is my own (unshared) account. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.3.61.68 (talk) 14:55, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:GNG. nothing in gnews, no third party sources. LibStar (talk) 07:36, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
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