Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rockwood Village, Mississauga


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. A possible merge or move elsewhere can be discussed on the article talk page. Randykitty (talk) 10:57, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Rockwood Village, Mississauga

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This is a run-of-the-mill subdivision. It is not listed among the neighbourhoods of Mississauga by the city's own definition - see this for a list of neighbourhoods recognized by the city. Note that all references are about historical areas in Mississauga unrelated to this subdivision. Mind matrix  16:05, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. IntoThinAir (talk) 16:19, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

My feeling is that Wikipedia should list the information as it isn’t available anywhere else. Say for example someone is looking to purchase a home in this neighborhood. Where else are they going to find any history or information except on Wikipedia. The Real Estate folks use “Rathwood”, but then say desirable Rockwood Village. I do genealogy research, and someone may be interested that I voted in a Rockwood polling station 100 years from now.

I’m interested in local history, just as someone in Russia or China may be interested in their local history.

I just had a look at the City of Mississauga document. One of the 22 “Character Neighbourhoods” is Rathwood. The map in section 16.21 for “Rathwood” includes Rockwood Village (the section of Rathwood east of Dixie). I didn’t know that Rockwood Village is a part of Rathwood. There isn’t an article on Rathwood on Wikipedia. Maybe you can create a Rathwood article and include the “Rockwood Village” information there. I don’t think the area west of Dixie has a name, other that Rathwood. There is a Rockwood Village Homeowners Association http://www.rockwoodvillage.ca/ but I can’t find a Rathwood Homeowners Association.

I don’t have any vested interest in Rockwood except that I live in this “run-of-the-mill” neighborhood. Do what you want. I haven’t contributed to Wikipedia in some time as I seem to run afoul of Wikipedia’s administrators. Bzaoral,  talk  18:23, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia should list the information as it isn’t available anywhere else—good sign that the article does not meet WP:N or WP:V, which usually require reliable, published sources for information. However, it looks like the content could be profitably moved to this other wiki, where home-buyers could find it. Zerach (talk) 20:54, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, So said The Great Wiki Lord. (talk) 17:22, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Merge with Toronto township. The thought of Wikipedia listing information that isn't available anywhere else, while understandable, runs directly against the verifiability policy, and is not a legitimate argument per WP:USEFUL. It doesn't appear that this area has legal recognition so isn't a part of WP:GEOLAND. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 18:47, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per GEOLAND. Most of this page is sourced, and where not, is clearly sourceable. The residents association section does not have a citation, but the information could be cited to their own website, which also contains some historical information. SpinningSpark 22:47, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. An article about Burnhamthorpe (a recognized official city neighbourhood) would likely be appropriate, as long as it was reliably sourced, and could include a bit of information about this subdivision — but WP:GEOLAND only guarantees notability to the city of Mississauga itself, while neighbourhoods or subdivisions within the city are eligible for their own standalone articles only if they can be well-referenced to enough reliable source coverage to clear GNG. The residents association's own self-published website about itself is not a reliable or notability-supporting source, either — it's a directly affiliated organization, not an independent or notability-assisting media outlet. And the references present in the article aren't helping either: it's referenced to more primary sources, not any evidence of notability-boosting reliable source coverage. Even the three "Kathleen A. Hicks" citations are to documents published by the Mississauga Public Library, not to real media, and are not about Rockwood Village either, but other parts of Mississauga. And no, it isn't our job to facilitate the publication or retention of information unpublished or unavailable anywhere else, either: we're an encyclopedia, not a free web host, so our job is not to help undercovered topics create media visibility they don't already have. Bearcat (talk) 20:53, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 03:01, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep, although perhaps with a "move" also. Sounds like move to "Rathwood, Mississauga" (currently a redlink) and further development fixes the situation.  Rathwood is an official neighborhood, and can cover Rockwood Village within it.  "Rathwood NHD" has or is forecasted to have populations of 28,900; 29,300; 29,800 in various years, per this source.  It is a populated place, and there are lots more sources available esp. when you expand to searching about Rathwood, Mississauga.  Note that Mississauga contains a list of neighborhoods including Rathwood, many of which have bluelink linked articles.
 * Further, people, we don't benefit from bashing a positive contributing editor like Bzaoral. Not friendly or helpful to destroy their work, and they have legitimate point that this deserves coverage, whether or not they have perfectly fit it into Wikipedia's arbitrary structures/guidelines/policies.  Dont bite newbies (not sure if they are newbie or not), don't be a jerk, anyhow.  And we are obligated to search for wp:ATD Alternatives to Deletion. --Doncram (talk) 22:44, 27 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Merge/Delete The larger official neighborhood it's in may be notable (should there be enough content to split from Mississauga), but the sources don't establish notability for a housing development with a homeowner's association; they're mainly about the area generally without substantive coverage of the subdivision. Reywas92Talk 20:33, 1 June 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.