Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rod Dembowski


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to King County Council. czar 05:57, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Rod Dembowski

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Semi-advertorialized WP:BLP of a person notable only for serving as a county councillor. As always, this is not a level of office that confers an automatic notability freebie -- the notability test for county councillors is not passed just by minimally verifying that the person exists, but by writing and sourcing a substantive article that demonstrates a reason why he should be considered much more special than most other county councillors. That's not what this article is, however: nothing here suggests a reason why his work is more significant than other people's work, and the referencing is entirely to the county government's own self-published content about itself and/or his own campaign website, which are not notability-supporting sources, with no evidence whatsoever of any reliable source coverage in real media. Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have considerably more and better sources than this. Bearcat (talk) 14:48, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 14:48, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Washington-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 14:48, 3 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete. King County is a large county, but the position of county council member itself does not make him pass WP:NPOL (I noticed all other King County Council members have articles, but they have held other WP:NPOL-passing positions or have better sourcing). I failed to find any significant coverage besides this article of his appointment towards WP:GNG. - Tristan Surtel (talk) 16:02, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment A quick review of Google News finds many reliably-sourced articles about mentioning the subject. I have not looked at many of the articles, but at a quick glance many of the articles include a quote from the subject, occasionally with him attributed as council chair. The quantity of coverage indicates there should be enough for an editor to describe the contributions the subject made while in office. The articles in Newsweek and the Guardian are sources where someone could start stitch together an fully-sourced paragraph describing the subject's position on youth detention. I suspect an intrepid editor could do the same about the subject's other policy positions. --Enos733 (talk) 17:12, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * "Quotes from the subject, with him attributed as council chair" aren't support for notability. We need to see coverage in which he is the subject that other people are talking about, not just sources that soundbite his opinions on other subjects. Bearcat (talk) 17:39, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Correct, the quotes by themselves do not add to notability. In this case we have a) two reliable sources that confirm the subject holds the position and b) at least one biography about the subject. The next step is to determine whether there is enough reliable sourced material that can provide information about what the subject accomplished in office (and not just a voting record or ribbon cuttings) and/or the the subject's policy positions. I think this could be met through a compilation of the articles (even if they are largely quotations) to write an article that is properly-sourced and more than "he exists." --Enos733 (talk) 18:18, 3 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Redirect to King County Council. I believe that preserving the page's history is important in this case. KidAd  •  SPEAK  18:32, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: I see too many pure votes at the end for there to be a clear policy based consensus at this time.
 * Delete it does not meet WP:NPOL. --Rrmmll22 (talk) 19:47, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to King County Council. --Enos733 (talk) 23:45, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect into King County Council.Brayan ocaner (talk) 00:11, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 14:23, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect, per KidAd. PK650 (talk) 23:31, 15 October 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.