Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rod Machado


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) VX! 18:42, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Rod Machado

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Per WP:BIO, no secondary sources (google just gives a lot of press releases and such). --fvw *  10:31, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Rod Machado gets thousands of hits on google, and did voiceovers for MS Flight Simulator. Definitely notable. But the article needs a lot of work. Arid Zkwelty (talk) 11:32, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Advertorial and promotional entry that doesn't show notability per guidelines. ChildofMidnight (talk) 14:19, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. "The subject has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, which has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews." (Microsoft Flight Simulator) and while the books are basically self-published, him having the highest level of aircraft pilot certification clearly makes him notable in his field. If you disregard Machado's own books, Google Books still offers enough dead-tree sources to back up an article on the guy. - Mgm|(talk) 16:31, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Seems like he's notable in his field, especially with the number of books he's written. Chasingsol (talk) 16:36, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as written, no mention of MS Flight Simulator, although I doubt a voice-over merits notability. Not a notable pilot many thousands of pilots have an ATP. No evidence that his books are notable. Reads like a promotion article for his products. MilborneOne (talk) 17:37, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable not for his books but for the acclaimation they have received as training tools and for the wide variety of jobs he does. I was simply listing some of the books he wrote and contributed to as examples. The many speeches he has made would also show notability. There is mention of his voice being the flight instructor voice for flight simulator but that is minor. To MilborneOne. Spencer Divonn&#39;io the glorious (talk) 18:34, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 19:57, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep but please improve its source per WP:BIO. Dekisugi (talk) 19:25, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Will add more sources. Issue resolved.Spencer Divonn&#39;io the glorious (talk) 20:18, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - He is notable enough as said by Mgm. Merry Christmas , from  ComputerGuy  talk 16:09, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 05:18, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 05:18, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-notable as a speaker, as an author, and as a pilot. Chuck Yeager is notable as a pilot--this guy has a license held by thousands of other pilots, nothing more.  If it survives AfD, the article needs strong cleanup and much better sourcing.  - Dravecky (talk) 20:26, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Books of him exist then he must be notable; still needs more references but that problem can easily be fixed -- Antonio Lopez  (desu) 21:19, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - but do expand the article. Machado is very well known within the aviation world, not only as an author but also as a very popular speaker. He is quite influential among the flight instructor community.  Cmichael (talk) 21:41, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


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