Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rodeo in the United States


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep (non-admin closure). Sean MD80 talk 18:06, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Rodeo in the United States

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Delete or Merge and redirect. This is a contnt fork of rodeo. Montanabw (talk) 23:52, 23 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. I am the author of the Rodeo in the United States article.  This is an attempt at a well-balanced article in an "underconstruction" state.  Yes, it needs work. My material is sourced from high grade reliable secondary sources per WP:RS.  It was forced into a stand alone article as most of the material was aburptly and IMO hysterically  deleted by Montana from the Rodeo article who carried on on the talk page about my work.  Apparently, the Rodeo article is "hers".  I didn't know that when I went to work on it and spent five days contributing to it -- even being encouraged on its talk page by others and being told I was doing a good job.  I am the "lead editor" on both the Rodeo and Rodeo in the United States articles.  I am 16 and Montana's disruptive, overbearing, confrontational style at WP frightens me and forces me to seek a corner where I can work quietly and diligently to create a decent article for WP.  I feel like I'm being pistol-whipped whenever she shows up and I literally shudder when she does.  For me, Montana has something of an ownership issue with rodeo.  I'm afraid to do anything because I fear she'll come down hard on me and push me around.  I have tried to work in a collaborative spirit with her and have encouraged her to contribute to the article.   However, she has refused.  Before making a decision please investigate the talk pages for both articles.   I will probably be banned forever for trying to stand up for myself.  Thank you for your interest, patience, and kindness.  I'm leaving now and won't be contributing to WP.  What difference does it make, I'll be banned anyway.  I've met some wonderful people here at WP and I will miss them.  Some have made my brief stay a pleasure and others have made it a living hell. Buttermilk1950 (talk) 00:25, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment on the content, not the contributor. Montanabw, and others, have made a large number of content suggestions that need attention, and you should take a break from adding new material and work on rectifying all those suggestions, instead of attacking those who are pointing problems out. ++Lar: t/c 10:54, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep in good faith. Upon reading Buttermilk's comments and looking at the talk page of Rodeo, I can see exactly where he is coming from, but this is not the place to bring it up. In fact, I can see no reason for deletion really that cant be solved with a cleanup. Jenuk1985  |  Talk  01:24, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy close as keep without prejudice to a future AfD when the editorial dispute has been resolved.—This is not WP:WQA or WP:AN/I. Please take editorial disputes somewhere else.— S Marshall   Talk / Cont  01:30, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep This is a very good article. There is no reason not to have an article on the topic. I'm sure that most sports have articles on the sport in a nation, Baseball in Japan etc. Borock (talk) 04:27, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep for size reasons alone — if all this information is included in rodeo, the article will be too large. Nyttend (talk) 04:28, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - this is an excellent article and no valid reason was given for deletion. CopaceticThought (talk) 07:37, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Userify until the extensive POV issues can be rectified. If they cannot, merge what can be useful and delete the rest. This article, at this time, is in no way "excellent", or "very good", as a couple of folk above claim... although I believe the primary author means well, the list of issues with it is extensive. ++Lar: t/c 10:52, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I am strongly opposed to the suggestion, made here by Lar and previously elsewhere by Montanabw, that this user confine contributions to a sandbox. --Una Smith (talk) 15:14, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. This article meets no criteria for deletion.  It is not a content fork of Rodeo but rather a split;  it has a related but different (narrower) scope.  Montanabw already proposed merging these two articles and got no support (Talk:Rodeo in the United States).  --Una Smith (talk) 15:14, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.