Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roger Bennett


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The result was   keep. The Bushranger One ping only 05:07, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Roger Bennett

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Searches for any substantial reliable sources about this person have yielded nothing. Delete as non-notable. 4meter4 (talk) 23:30, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete. No references, not know and appears to be written by his Dad, quote "his dad was a boxing champion." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raymond88824 (talk • contribs) 20:27, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Significant Aboriginal playwright . More coverage in  and  . His father, the late Australian boxing champion Elley Bennett, had nothing to do with the creation of this article. duffbeerforme (talk) 07:26, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * keep&mdash;although i have no way of knowing whether his dad wrote this article, it's clear that the article mentions that his dad was a boxing champion because that's important for understanding his play Up the Ladder, which is in part about boxing. reviewers of the play have almost invariably mentioned this fact as well. in fact,  anyway, i added four sources for information that is in the article now, and which i believe are sufficient to establish notability.  there is more to be added.  it's hard to design a good search string because the name's so common, but this one brought up some good stuff, including this mention in the columbia encyclopedia of modern drama entry on indigenous playwrights.  i see that it's only a mention, but he's important enough to be used as an exemplar in a book of that stature, which i think is evidence of his notability here as well.&mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 20:07, 30 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Neutral. The sources offered in the article and in this AfD make a case, but it's still a bit thin. My own web searches find a bit more, but not really very much. The article claims "Bennett's works are often studied in Australian high schools"--I looked but could not find evidence to support, but I'm not satisfied that I know everywhere to look. If anyone could find something solid to support that statement, I think it would AfD-proof the article. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 00:40, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
 * would you consider sharing the "bit more" that your "own web searches find" so that we might think about how to use it to improve the article and so that newcomers to this discussion might have a chance of judging the subject's notability on the basis of existing sources rather than merely employed sources?&mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 01:32, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. Apologies for any dupes with previously identified material:
 * Voices from the heart: contemporary Aboriginal poetry from Central Australia - a collection that he edited
 * Google search within New South Wales .edu site - Looking again, here is some evidence that his plays may be studied in school. Play appears on half a dozen test syllabi. I can't tell, though, if this means 50 kids read him, or 50,000.
 * Broader search on all edu.au - This one is less helpful. Majority of hits refer to other people. Where it's the right person, mostly x-refs sources already found, including this WP article. This hit seems to suggest that his work was once included in one university course at one university in 1997, and again in 2010--don't know if that's one of a handful, or one of all Aussie colleges.
 * Aussie library holdings of his work
 * 2008 seminar at Monash Univ. - included in syllabus on translating plays into Japanese
 * Academic paper - Gets a couple of sentences.
 * DRY LIPS MOVES TO TOKYO: DOES INDIGENOUS DRAMA TRANSLATE? - Included in 2004/2005 Univ. of Manchester seminar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hobbes Goodyear (talk • contribs) 03:38, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
 * thanks!&mdash; alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 03:51, 31 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - I'm satisfied the subject passes GNG. Some of the cited sources are borderline-trivial mentions, but the books that mention him, in my opinion, get him firmly over the line.--Yeti Hunter (talk) 01:31, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
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