Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rolf Bae


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The result was keep - seems ironic to record this as WP:SNOW under the circumstances... Grutness...wha?  01:44, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Rolf Bae

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I don't mean to be disrespectful to this person who unfortunately perished in the recent K2 accident, but I'm afraid that dying in this event does not make a person notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. I nominate this article for deletion - or actually, that it be redirected to the K2 disaster article, unless someone actually establishes notability. - Lilac Soul (talk • contribs • count) 19:45, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Likewise, sympathies to the family and friends, but unfortunately this does not make him notable for an encyclopaedia. Perhaps he was notable before this incident, but there is no mention of it in the article. Several people died in that incident. Delete, unless evidence of other notability is provided.--Dmol (talk) 19:54, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Redirect or keep and expand Yes an unfortunate event. However I doubt he qualifies for a full biographical article. Anything there is to say could quite easily be put in the disaster article. His wife Cecilie Skog has had a full article for some time, I wonder whether his article could be expanded.  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 20:06, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep and expand Bae is a very well reputated Norwegian mountaineer and explorer. He is still holding the world record of the longest cross country skiing crossing the Antarctica with Eirik Sønneland in 2001, and very recently repeating the Norwegian Route at Greate Trango Towers in Karakoram Pakistan. --Anarkistix (talk) 21:10, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete . We cannot expand an article by decree from a deletion discussion... __meco (talk) 21:34, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Bae is mentioned in the Encyclopedia of the Antarctic from 2007, which shows that he was known before the K2 accident. There are other pre-2008 mentions at Google News. Zagalejo^^^ 22:07, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Certainly, if the article gets furnished with reliable sources documenting notability, I'll change my opinion. __meco (talk) 22:34, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. Article has been expanded sufficiently. __meco (talk) 22:43, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand I dunno, looks to me like there's enough notable material aside from the K2 disaster. Just need to elaborate on it further. General Epitaph (talk) 22:19, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Editor(s) is/are doing a fine job of establishing notability as well as making an interesting wikipedia article. I'm interested. Want to know more about this person. Not spam. Not advertising. This one's legit people. --Quartermaster (talk) 22:57, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep While dying on K2 is not notable, making the world's longest ski journey and being part of the first group to ascend Great Trango Tower by that route and surivive the return indicates notability. Edward321 (talk) 23:52, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep and suggest early closure per WP:SNOW. The page has been expanded considerably since the version prompting this AFD, and several new references establishing notability independent of the accident have been added. The article was AFDed for placing undue weight solely on Bae's death; this is now clearly no longer the case, and I doubt anyone can dispute that Bae was independently recognized as notable in his field. Bullzeye (Ring for Service) 00:11, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Just confirming what Edward321 stated, he did (until recently) hold the record for the world's longest cross-country ski journey. He also climbed the south face of the Great Trango Tower, a route described modestly as the most difficult, hazardous and arduous high-altitude vertical rock climbing in the world, and attempted only thrice in history. The first team died to the last man. His team was the third, and only the second to do it and survive. It hasn't been done since. Most climbers regard it as a death-trap, even for elite vertical rock-wall climbers. Bullzeye (Ring for Service) 00:28, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep I am sorry I removed the AFD, I guess I am too inexperienced here to really know the rules of the game, and should have behaved as the novice that I am. But I understood it as if there was consensus on keeping the article after it had been expanded. Thommra —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thommra (talk • contribs) 00:34, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


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