Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Romániço


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The result was Redirect to Esperantido. PhantomSteve/ talk ¦ contribs \ 18:04, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Romániço

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Non-notable Esperantido. A single reliable source for the entire article, which barely mentions Romániço at all. Very much in passing, two small mentions out of 166 pages. The rest of the sources are extremely dubious. One of them, the so-called "official website", literally has "ceiling cat is watching you masturbate" on its homepage, and it also has a gif of a woman jumping up and down and...yeah. (If you don't see it, click the logo a few times.) I have not even been able to verify who invented this language, so how do we know that site is official? Just because the WP:SPS claims to be? Even if true, an SPS really does nothing to boost its notability anyway... I use this, rather than PROD, as well respected editors seem to have written large portions of the page. Per XTools, User:Kwamikagami, User:Wavelength and User:Drmies all contributed quite a bit to the article, and I wonder if they have some good reason I can't seem to find for believing this is a notable Esperantido. Nothing against them for contributing to an article of dubious notability, I've done so before a few times too, but that's why I chose AfD and not PROD. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) please always ping! 10:13, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
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 * , the only thing I've done is quality control, and while I appreciate the shoutout, I only cleaned up some. I have no real opinion on whether this is notable or not but I will grant you that the sourcing right now is piss-poor. I wish I knew what drew me to the article four years ago. Drmies (talk) 20:36, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I've only done a bit of editing while cleaning up. The WP-eo article says the author is anonymous and it's the protolanguage of Romanice. WP-eo tries to cover every ido ever mentioned, with no attempt at limiting per notability. Personal lang projects have no business being on WP-en unless they've achieved notability somehow, which few of them have. — kwami (talk) 00:34, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It appears to be one of those languages that ring a bell, but nobody really knows where and why. Nüm bal (talk) 00:12, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note to closer for soft deletion: This nomination has had limited participation and falls within the standards set for lack of quorum. There are no previous AfD discussions, undeletions, or current redirects and no previous PRODs have been located. This nomination may be eligible for soft deletion at the end of its 7-day listing. --Cewbot (talk) 00:02, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  D My Son  06:47, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. The language itself appears to be quite elaborate, and the website creates the impression that it's quite alive as well. Still, there's too much that is unclear about this language. The article says it was created in 1991 by an anonymous author, but Alan Reed Libert (the only non-primary source) mentions a certain Mike Morales. And this archived page suggests that it evolved in the mid-1980s from the Esperanto used by a group of juvenile shoplifters. The relationship with Esperanto isn't clear either: Libert discusses it in a book about Esperantidos, but the website (as well as other websites like this one) doesn't even mention Esperanto at all. It's not explained why and how there are several variants of Romániço. Is the website maintained by same person who created the language, or was it adopted by someone else? Apart from the fact that this article does not answer these basic questions, it is not clear where the information comes from either. I would suggest to change the article into a redirect to Esperantido, leaving the page history intact. &mdash;IJzeren Jan Uszkiełtu?  00:06, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Esperantido per . Not notable for a standalone. –Austronesier (talk) 10:54, 23 July 2020 (UTC)


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