Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Romi Mankin


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The result was   delete.  Sandstein  07:19, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Romi Mankin

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As far as I can tell unnotable. (h-index=10 and total citations=215 accoding to google scholar, which is a less than stellar impact for a theoretical physicist of his age with a permanent position.) TimothyRias (talk) 13:39, 6 January 2011 (UTC) TimothyRias (talk) 13:39, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable even if all claims are true. EEng (talk) 20:03, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete in the absence of evidence that he passes WP:PROF. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:15, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: I think his being awarded the Estonian Physical Society 2002 EPS Award (see Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences: Physics and Mathematics Jun 2002 p124) should be sufficient for WP:Prof 2 "The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level." (Msrasnw (talk) 02:17, 8 January 2011 (UTC))
 * It seems to me that
 * The Estonian Physical Society is Estonia's national society for Physicists (This is indicated by it being recognised by/affiliated to the Estonian Academy of Sciences and to the European Physical Society
 * Mankin was awarded their prize - cited to an Estonian Academy of Sciences journal.
 * What is the source of doubt about this meeting WP:Prof #2 Highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national level? (Msrasnw (talk) 10:05, 12 January 2011 (UTC))
 * We'd first need a reliable source to show that he actually recieved said award.TimothyRias (talk) 10:17, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Isn't this Proceedings of the Estonian Academy of Sciences: Physics and Mathematics Jun 2002 p124 OK? Here also is the list of award winners on the Estonian Physical Society (EFS) site - and a description of the award! (Msrasnw (talk) 11:57, 12 January 2011 (UTC))
 * About the first source. No, it isn't since that only states that he was nominated for the prize, whatever that may mean. The other two sources are in Estonian, so I cannot really verify what they say. Although, it appears that the second one is indeed a list of winners.TimothyRias (talk) 13:17, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Dear TimothyRias, I have added the EPS's Aastapreemia laureaatide nimekiri (Translatable as Award Winners List) to the article. Is it OK now or do you think Xxnathippe's concerns are not sufficiently answered by my weak repsonse? That is do we need some direct evidence that Estonia's national physics society's Annual Award is prestigious? Best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 14:48, 12 January 2011 (UTC))
 * To be honest, I'm not sure. At first glance the award doesn't seem that notable.TimothyRias (talk) 15:50, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * On closer examination of WP:PROF, criterion #2 requires that we show that the EFS itself is notable.TimothyRias (talk) 16:04, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * * Is this not OK for that: The Estonian Physical Society is Estonia's national society for Physicists - This is indicated by it being recognised by/affiliated to the Estonian Academy of Sciences and to the European Physical Society. The Estonian Academy of Sciences is the body recognised by the Estonian gov. (Msrasnw (talk) 16:14, 12 January 2011 (UTC))
 * and also evidence that the award is highly prestigious. Xxanthippe (talk) 10:33, 12 January 2011 (UTC).
 * I guess I was hoping a national physics society's Annual Award would be OK - I am not sure how to find a ref to say this is prestigious ..... Oh dear! :) Perhaps it being announced in the Estonian Academy of Sciences's Proceedings could be taken to be indicative of prestige? But this might be clutching at straws! (Msrasnw (talk) 12:00, 12 January 2011 (UTC))
 * The standing of an award is judged by the standing of its recipients. Xxanthippe (talk) 21:46, 12 January 2011 (UTC).


 * Delete. GS cites are low in what is generally a well cited field. Xxanthippe (talk) 04:34, 8 January 2011 (UTC).
 * Comment. The award should be verified to be national or international award. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Behzad.Fatahi (talk • contribs) 04:06, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Are the refs above (and added to the article) sufficient for you? (Msrasnw (talk) 08:39, 13 January 2011 (UTC))
 * The list of names establishes (a) that the subject received the award and (b) that the award is not highly prestigious. Xxanthippe (talk) 09:56, 13 January 2011 (UTC).


 * Comment: WoS h-index: for what it is worth Web of Science reports 44 articles and a h-index of 11 (Msrasnw (talk) 20:24, 13 January 2011 (UTC))
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