Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ron Cross (cricketer)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Missvain (talk) 22:25, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Ron Cross (cricketer)

 * – ( View AfD View log )

The subject appears to fail GNG. He hasn't played cricket at the highest domestic level and hasn't umpired at the highest domestic level. His military endeavours, while admirable, don't satisfy GNG for military personnel. His involvement with club cricket doesn't satisfy CRIN. His 37 years at Haslar Hospital also don't satisfy any inclusion criteria. Searches for sources seem to be routine coverage surrounding his death in local newspapers so lacks SIGCOV. Overall fails GNG, CRIN and military personnel inclusion. StickyWicket (talk) 20:48, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. StickyWicket (talk) 20:48, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. StickyWicket (talk) 20:48, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. StickyWicket (talk) 20:48, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions. StickyWicket (talk) 20:48, 25 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete Don't think there is enough material to pass WP:GNG. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  21:13, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep meets WP:GNG (Part of Wisden Club Cricket Hall of Fame and recipient of Legion of Honour). Störm   (talk)  23:59, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'm not sure about the Wisden Club Cricket Hall of Fame - it's an initiative of the Wisden Cricket Monthly magazine rather than the far more prestigious Almanack. My first impression was that the Legion of Honour would confer notability and I was about to vote Keep, but looking at its Wikipedia article I see: "American and British veterans who served in either World War on French soil, or during the 1944 campaigns to liberate France, may be eligible for appointment as Chevalier of the Legion of Honour, provided they were still living when the honour was approved." So hundreds of thousands must have been eligible to have received it, and it's arguably less significant than his MBE. JH (talk page) 08:44, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak delete There's a lot of routine coverage on him, mainly about his involvement in D-Day and his involvement in club cricket in Hampshire. The Wisden coverage is the closest thing we get to SIGCOV, and again it's just one source. Weak delete for now unless more can be found. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 09:37, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete lacks SIGCOV in multiple RS to meet WP:GNG or any other notability guideline. Mztourist (talk) 04:08, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and JH.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 07:38, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Neutral The four sources in the article (from three independent RSs) all constitute WP:SIGCOV, and there is enough content in them to build a reasonably decent-sized article. As such my !vote would be to keep, but I'm not really seeing why he warrants an article here. We don't have articles for everyone awarded the MBE or Legion d’Honneur, and being well-known in local cricketing circles doesn't carry much weight either. wjematherplease leave a message... 11:43, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep The guy has a MBE and there is plenty of coverage, reams of it. More than enough to pass WP:SIGCOV. I suspect if there is sufficient deep search, much more will surface including reports at the National Archive at Kew. The whole is orientated towards his cricket career, but it should have a decent sized block on his military career.   scope_creep Talk  18:33, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Doesn't satisfy WP:CRIN or WP:NCRICKET. &mdash;  A.A Prinon  Conversation 15:18, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete on cricketing/GNG grounds, not too sure about military grounds though. SportingFlyer  T · C  19:57, 4 May 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.