Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ronald Beard


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was  Keep (non-admin closure) sources have been added and consensus seems to be that the article meets WP:N. - Icewedge (talk) 03:14, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Ronald Beard

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Does not appear to meet WP:BIO, WP:ATHLETE or WP:NOTABILITY and article lacks non-trivial coverage in reliable, independent sources. See also a similar AFD recently in progress at Articles for deletion/Walter J. West. Kittybrewster  &#9742;  18:30, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Coach with the worst record in college football history. Notable events in life, reliable non-trivial and independent sources, meets many criteria of notability.--Paul McDonald (talk) 18:39, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails to meet WP:BIO or WP:NOTE. Unfortunately Paul McDonald is incorrect that sources are non-trival. All the sources on the page are trivial mentions. In order to be non-trivial the article has to be about the subject, not the team with a passing mention to the coach. -Djsasso (talk) 21:25, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Response Sports Illustrated is trivial?--Paul McDonald (talk) 18:50, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * weak keep  coach at   historically black university. That they kept him for four seasons without any wins at all does seem a  little remarkable, so there probably is some interesting material to be found on him.  There are likely to be print sources, and the article should not be abandoned until someone does a proper search. Pre-web information about  this and similar universities is relatively difficult to find, but they are  nonetheless important historically. As Wikipedia is intended to be a comprehensive encyclopedia, stub articles should not be removed untill they can be properly worked on.  DGG (talk) 23:16, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Sports Illustrated wrote about him in a long article. Also, the comparison to Walter West is flawed. He coached at a Division III school, while Beard competed in Division I-AA. The man has the worst record of all time, which should be notable enough regardless of where he worked.Clarityfiend (talk) 00:23, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - the Sports Illustrated profile makes it an unquestionable keep, not that it wasn't already. Additionally, the nominator really should learn the difference between NCAA Divisions before making mass nominations. matt91486 (talk) 15:15, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Request As discussed on the AfD talk page, if this article (or any of the series of articles) is closed as a delete, please kindly first move the article to User:Paulmcdonald/Articlename, where "Articlename" is the name of the article (or articles) being removed. Also, please note the new page location at User:Paulmcdonald/deletedcoach so we can be sure to find the moved page.

Why? There have been, at present count, 58 articles of our project placed on the AfD list and there is just not enough time to adequately and appropriately respond and ultimately improve the articles themselves. This would give the project memebers time to work on improving the articles. This request should in no way imply that I believe that the article (or articles) in quesiton should be deleted at this time. I am making a simple cut-n-paste request due to the sheer volume of AfDs in such a short period of time.--Paul McDonald (talk) 01:00, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  17:40, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, fails to meet WP:BIO. Stifle (talk) 10:17, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. I have little doubt that plenty of sources are available. That the team had such a losing streak makes it more likely. The only issue is finding them offline and recording them here. It's unfortunate sometimes that we rely on Google as a measure as I have little doubt that more is available. --  Banj e  b oi    06:36, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. I've added four offline sources: three from the Houston Chronicle and one from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Fortunately, one of those included a limited biography of his educational career, which I included. JKBrooks85 (talk) 22:34, 23 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.