Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ronald Hubbard


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The result was   delete. The article's subject is found to not be notable. &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 00:40, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Ronald Hubbard

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Judo competitor who has no significant independent coverage to meet WP:GNG. He also doesn't meet WP:MANOTE--Air Force events are not considered the highest level of competition and he has no podium finishes at any national championship or open international competition.Mdtemp (talk) 16:35, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 17:56, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Strong KeepEarned a bronze Medal in the Olympic Trials for the United States in 1964. Placing in the Olympic Trials shows sports notability.  Olympic Trials are a notable national event. CrazyAces489 (talk) 21:33, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - Where did you get the ideas that (a) medals are awarded in the U.S. Olympic Trials, and (b) participation in the U.S. Olympic Trials indicates notability per se for Wikipedia? Hint: neither is true.  Please review WP:NOLYMPICS.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 16:58, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
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 * Delete Agree with nominator regarding WP:GNG and WP:MANOTE. Placing in a qualifying event does not confer notability.  For Judo the highest level of competition would be either the World or Olympics (just attending would be enough) but that didn't happen. I would say that the New York Times reference caught my attention but then one realizes that it refers to the two competitors that went on to become the Olympic team members and the subject is mentioned only in passing as being defeated.  Not really an appropriate first reference on the subject and a little disingenuous.  I did alter the article text somewhat to reflect what other references actually said rather then the point the primary author wanted to make.Peter Rehse (talk) 11:05, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * commentMANOTE is a guide and he passes that. He passes WP:GNG by qualifying for the Olympic Trials and partcipating in them.  He was also the winner of 2 other events outside of placing third in the Olympic Trials.  He was also a member of the All Air Force Judo Team.  CrazyAces489 (talk) 18:12, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Wrong - The general notability guidelines of WP:GNG require significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources. I strongly urge you to actually read GNG before commenting further.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:00, 18 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete I don't believe he meets WP:SPORTCRIT because as stated, he only participated in the trials which are different than the games. When you exclude "trivial" coverage there is not enough to go upon for WP:SIGCOV. Mkdw talk 08:10, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete There is no evidence given that he meets any of the notability criteria at WP:ATHLETE. In addition, my search didn't find the significant independent coverage of him required by WP:GNG. Papaursa (talk) 17:17, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete: Lack of significant coverage to pass MANOTE or GNG. Niteshift36 (talk) 16:21, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
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