Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ronald Phillips (murderer)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. There is clearly no consensus to delete this article. Various policies have been presented as justifying a deletion (SINGLEEVENT/ BLP1E, CRIMINAL), but these have been countered by the fact that the most basic criteria for inclusion (NCRIME, GNG, and regarding depth etc of coverage, WP:ANYBIO) are met. No comment on waiting for this AfD to adhere to WP:BDP. (non-admin closure) &mdash; fortuna  velut luna  16:48, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Ronald Phillips (murderer)

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NN individual. Falls into the WP:1EVENT category. red dogsix (talk) 23:20, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
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 * Comment. First look: this person gets a blip or two of non-routine coverage from his efforts to avoid execution. That said, the overwhelming majority of the RS coverage I'm finding is the expected appeals for mercy (he says he's a changed man) and the setting of execution dates. • Gene93k (talk) 01:30, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The information itself (which I believe could be fleshed out) does not merit deletion according to WP:NCRIME. It was a high-profile case with a lot of news coverage. However, the article for Ronald Phillips does merit deletion according to WP:SINGLEEVENT; I believe the information should therefore be migrated to an article about the case itself. UltravioletAlien (talk) 02:17, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SophisticatedSwampert let's talk about that 06:31, 5 July 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - per coverage. Per WP:GNG. The execution controversy story got plenty of attention. The article needs expansion but that is not a reason for deletion.--BabbaQ (talk) 12:20, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:59, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRIME: victim was not WP:PUBLICFIGURE and the motivation for the crime or the execution of the crime was not unusual or noteworthy. - GretLomborg (talk) 03:19, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete -- nn individual and per WP:CRIME as noted above. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:00, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. I agree that he fails WP:CRIMINAL. However, that does not supersede WP:GNG and as has been pointed out above, there has been quite a lot of coverage about both the crime and the attempts to execute him, sufficient to meet GNG (coverage that continues to this day,  ). As for WP:BLP1E, this is a case of WP:BLP2E (the crime and the execution attempts) and BLP2E is not a thing. Plus, call me cynical but if they do execute him on July 26, this will soon no longer be a BLP. Maybe we should wait with closing this AFD until then? Regards  So  Why  16:17, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. The article currently is a BLP violating train wreck, but I think it could be cleaned up to a reasonable stub; as stated above, the sheer length of time he has spent on death row has attracted enough coverage to write something about it. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  16:23, 20 July 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.