Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ronnie Tay


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The result was keep. Chief naval officer of an economically important nation. Notable ex officio regardless of paucity of sources. Daniel Case 12:45, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Ronnie Tay

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Fails on notability; as per note 3 of WP:BIO, content is not far removed from directory entries or mentions in passing - no detailed discussion of subject. Though potentially notable as the Singaporean Chief of Navy, there are very few noteworthy secondary sources - mentions in web articles are either very brief or the article itself is very short. Even combining every reference to him I've seen so far, I don't think a notable biography could be prepared. Sources discuss his position or job more than the man. Ng Chee Khern could also potentially be included in this nomination for the same reasons. WLU 17:21, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, the head of a country's navy is a noteworthy position. A quick Google search yields multiple independent hits for Admiral Tay holding this position.  Even if the article is short at this point, that just means it should be expanded.  Same for Ng Chee Khern. NawlinWiki 20:02, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep both for same reasons. This should be an automatically notable position. --Dhartung | Talk 21:57, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletions.   -- John Vandenberg 23:21, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - the sources are tenuously reliable or references are incredibly minor - at sources state that he is the head of the navy and that he attended "x" benefit or provided a cheque for "y" event. Ronnie Tay is noteable solely for the fact that he is the head of the Singapore Navy and nothing else.  I would think the lack of noteworthy information from secondary sources would negate any notability gained from his title.  Given what I've found I think the best that could be done is delete the entry and merge what little information that exists into the Singapore Navy article as 'Ronnie Tay is the current head of the Navy'.  In my mind this would be the inclusion of a single reference in the Republic of Singapore Navy's page citing who the current head of the navy is.   Multiple hits on google point to the same thing - he is the navy head and that's about it.  WLU 23:47, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge per WLU. Information, while notable, is too hard to source, and too sparse. The Evil Spartan 15:04, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep, any military, judicial or executive leader at a national level is worthy of an article. Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 07:33, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
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