Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rose Tobias Shaw


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The result was keep. Eddie891 Talk Work 01:35, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Rose Tobias Shaw

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A working casting director. Apparently her bio says that she received a lifetime achievement award from BFI. However, I can't find anything on the BFI site to corroborate that. In fact, I can't find anything on the BFI site that says that such an award exists, unlike AFI, where there is such an award. That being said, even if such an award exists, that is not enough to establish notability.  Onel 5969  TT me 01:47, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
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 * Speedy keep as meets WP:CREATIVE with the BFI award for her career (#4) and her body of work overall (#3). It is my understanding that third-party sources, one of which was cited in the article, albeit behind a paywall, are preferable to a link on the awarding organization's website--but maybe that's for more minor awards than the one she received. But Googling her name and BFI brings the excerpt from her obituary that reports on her receiving the award, so I don't know why the nominator doubts it being fact. I added a second source through a subscription database that should clarify the name of the award and should reinforce its existence and her having received it. Beyond that, when I search her name with quotes, I get 348 results in Proquest EIMA. All signs point to her having been an important casting director. Just did a little search in newspapers.com and got this article; another 114 hits. That's with all 3 names--I'd doubtless get more with "Rose Shaw" and "Rose Tobias" that would be some fun to sort through. Haven't searched NewspaperArchive or the Historical Major Dailies collections... yet. Even without the BFI award, she was highly visible in the entertainment industry DiamondRemley39 (talk) 02:20, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, clearly meets WP:BASIC. The BFI lifetime achievement award was presented in 1987 according to the obituaries, so perhaps it's not surprising that it doesn't have a great deal of online evidence. Chocmilk03 (talk) 10:32, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
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 * Keep Telegraph article shows her career and the award - believe the awards were issued at the gala night of the BFI London Film Festival but can't find ref for that (again prob age). Added another ref about her casting career. Def meets WP:Basic.Davidstewartharvey (talk) 10:43, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep As per great explaination given by . He meets WP:CREATIVE for receiving BFI award for her career and her body of work overall. Grailcombs (talk) 18:42, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep cite added by the British Federation of Film Societies which supports her notability in the film industry in 1987. The article could be improved by more citations from the period.Kaybeesquared (talk) 10:02, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - The BFI lifetime achievement award makes her pass WP:ANYBIO. -- Ashley yoursmile!  10:20, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - clearly significant enough in her field to warrant an article here Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


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