Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ross Campbell (vocal coach)


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The result was delete. Drafts can't be deleted at AfD due to lack of notability so it will need to go to MfD. Sarahj2107 (talk) 07:30, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Ross Campbell (vocal coach)

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Recently created biography of a non-notable, but no doubt very competent, singing teacher. A thorough search for significant independent coverage results in the subject comprehensively failing both the general inclusion criteria at Notability (people) and failing to meet even one of the alternative criteria at Criteria for musicians and ensembles or Notability (academics). Contrary to what was originally claimed in the article, he is not a "Professor of Singing" at the Royal Academy of Music (RAM). According to his own bio there and RAM's Musical Theatre department, he is simply one of the singing teachers in the department, not even head of department. RAM has several professors—he is not one of them.

He has no recording career. I can find no reviews of any performances where he had a lead or soloist role, despite the vague claims on his RAM page. His one publication is a songbook series published by the Associated Board of the Royal Schools of Music for which he was one of the three compilers. The series won an entirely non-notable trade association award in 2009. This year he started a private musical theatre training course in London, covered solely in a press release-based article in The Stage. The course (projected to have 20 students) isn't even scheduled to begin until October 2016 and they are currently touting for applicants. This may account for the haste with which this article was created in spite of it having been speedy deleted twice as Ross Campbell (Singing Specialist) and four times (and finally salted) as Ross Campbell (International Singing Specialist). Not to mention the abandoned Draft:Ross Campbell (International Singing Specialist).

Note that he is not to be confused with the composer of an obscure 1978 string quartet, despite the fact that WorldCat has mistakenly linked them under the same identity. Nor is he to be confused with the mildly notable Scottish composer active from the 1990s named Ross Campbell (also linked under that WorldCat identity). Voceditenore (talk) 10:49, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
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 * Note: This debate has been notified to  WikiProject Musical Theatre. Voceditenore (talk) 17:40, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete. When coming here, I thought I'd have things to add to this discussion, but Voceditenore has expertly covered it all. Given the history, I recommend that this be salted after deletion. --Randykitty (talk) 12:22, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. I agree with Voceditenore.  This article does not satisfy WP:PROF or any other notability standard. Shouldn't this also be deleted?: Draft:Ross Campbell (International Singing Specialist) -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:36, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. And Draft:Ross Campbell (International Singing Specialist) also. Sandcherry (talk) 02:11, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
 * As one of the people involved in the deletions of earlier iterations of this article, I'll give the creator a small amount of credit for adding a bit of referencing this time, as reliable sourcing was completely absent the last time I dealt with it — but I agree with the nominator that it's not enough to constitute a pass of any Wikipedia inclusion test: the volume doesn't satisfy WP:GNG, and the substance of them doesn't give him a strong WP:NMUSIC claim. I've also long suspected, but been unable to outright prove, that the creator had a direct conflict of interest of some kind (i.e. he was a student of Campbell's, an administrative employee of the school, or a paid public relations consultant who had been hired to get Campbell into Wikipedia) due to his sheer persistence in recreating it no matter how many times it was deleted. All told, there's still nothing here to suggest a credible or well-sourced reason why Campbell has earned coverage in an encyclopedia at all. Delete both the article and the draft. Bearcat (talk) 17:16, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete this and all related drafts. I'm sure Mr Campbell is an excellent vocal coach... but then so are many others around the world, there's nothing to demonstrate his notability above any others in his field. So he and two colleagues picked 100 songs of other people to put into a book for aspiring singers (so fails WP:AUTHOR), and his business venture is not yet under way (so it fails WP:ORG). Really there's absolutely nothing to suggest any notability whatsoever. Richard3120 (talk) 03:31, 23 May 2016 (UTC)


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