Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ross Newell


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The result was   delete. Secret account 14:49, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Ross Newell

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Tagged for doubtful notability since sept 2007 and hasn't improved much since. There are the usual MySpace and YouTube links, but not much else. I can't find anything notable about the man. Fails WP:N.   SIS   00:42, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Comment The Sophie Ellis-Bextor official site credits Ross Newell with playing guitar, bass and keyboards and also as a co-writer. He is also apparently for artist Stella Vine "the love of her life". If the article is not kept, I suggest including minimal information in Read My Lips (album) and redirecting to there. That article, at variance with the Ellis-Bextor site, credits "Allen Newell".  Ty  16:47, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete not notable Clubmarx (talk) 03:39, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak delete not notable enough. ChildofMidnight (talk) 07:40, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * Delete: No reliable sources that show notability per WP:BIO. Schuy m 1  ( talk ) 01:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete For failing WP:CREATIVE. Part of the information is either hoax or unverifiable. e.g. there are no indications that he actually co-wrote songs in Read My Lips (album) (which incidentally released in 2002 and not 1991 as the article suggests). Plus director/producer of films with no third party coverage. LeaveSleaves talk 13:33, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I was going by the Wikipedia article (which I now realise was a huge mistake). I now checked all music which credits those songs to Ross Newell. However the Guitar & keyboards credits are given to Roger Newell (Another Newell). The web results otherwise can't be trusted as most of them seem to derive information from Wikipedia. Anyways, in any of these cases I don't see this person passing WP:CREATIVE. LeaveSleaves talk 17:32, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Presumably the official Ellis-Bextor site should have the correct info. I agree as things stand this article does not have sufficient sources to merit retention. However, per WP:NNC it would be informative, as I've mentioned above, to include some minimal info in Read My Lips (album). Some of the material would be valid there.  Ty  19:01, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * That would be good. Particularly since it now appears that the song credits in that article are completely wrong. LeaveSleaves talk 19:08, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge pertinent information to Read My Lips (album) and redirect, per talk above.  Ty  20:18, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete: sections are unverifiable, notability not established. JamesBurns (talk) 04:57, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * His contribution to Read My Lips (album) is verifiable, as above. Is there any reason why there should not be a redirect there?  Ty  05:51, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Redirect to wherever the hell you think this needs to go ;) Ryan 4314   (talk) 06:24, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


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