Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ross Tierney


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The result was draftify. Daniel (talk) 11:08, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Ross Tierney

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested based on his appearances in the League of Ireland and for the Ireland U21's, and based on an upcoming move to Scotland, none of which satisfies WP:NFOOTY or WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:40, 20 November 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 🌀 Locomotive207 - talk  🌀  02:35, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:40, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:40, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Draftify (or, failing that, delete). Seems WP:TOOSOON. WP:NFOOTY is not met, and all material coverage (that isn't match report type routine coverage) seems to be about (proposed?) move to Scotland. This type of single event/news coverage doesn't meet WP:SIGCOV. Either delete (and wait). Or draftify (and wait). Guliolopez (talk) 23:59, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete - fails GNG and NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 10:54, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep: Looks to be WP:SIGCOV of the subject here, here, here, and here. Pretty wide-spread coverage on a transfer of his here, here, here, and here. Also has what could be considered WP:ROUTINE coverage but is a bit more meaty here and here. GauchoDude (talk) 15:53, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Draftify as coverage is not enough to pass WP:NFOOTY. 79.66.223.74 (talk) 13:59, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * ross Tierney is a professional footballer Why isn't that coverage enough to pass, what will be enough? It seems on Wikipedia it's our way or the highway. Whenever it's someone outside the moderator/wiki staff position you have to assert dominance. Relax it's just a wiki page. So you delete the page and then recreate it once he plays for Motherwell? Are you going to personally put in the work and create the new page? What exactly passes for confirmation that he's moving to Motherwell? Are they all lying. I think it's just you don't want to admit it was a mistake the original guy made for considering it for deletion as he didn't know he was moving to Motherwell. But we can't have anyone admitting mistakes now can we? 23:11, 25 November 2021 (utc) nominated for young player of the year award aswell here
 * Comment - as per links added by GauchoDude, I think there would be enough evidence of SIGCOV to pass GNG - maybe the IP above could add those and improve the story instead of bitching about the process (being signed by a club doesn't count the same as playing for them)...? Also is there not something about the League of Ireland now being a FPL? Haven't checked, maybe still under discussion. Anyway, if there's deemed still not to be enough, it would be a case of Draftify for a few weeks as - if the reports are anything to go by - he is good enough to go into the Motherwell team and thus pass NFOOTY almost immediately in January. So any work that goes into it now wouldn't be wasted, just likely 'hidden' for a short while until all criteria are met. Crowsus (talk) 18:56, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'm not convinced that the sources in the article or unearthed at AfD actually meet the criteria for significant independent, secondary coverage. The pieces reporting on the death of his brother are almost identical in content and are half the same quotes from Tierney: this means the sources are neither intellectually independent of each other nor secondary and independent of the subject (interviews have long been held insufficiently independent for GNG consideration). The same is true for articles discussing his signing to Motherwell, which also comprise primarily the same non-independent quotes from Graham Alexander and therefore cannot contribute to notability. The Irish Sun coverage is similarly mostly quotes from Tierney, many of which are him talking about his teammate so aren't even relevant for his own biography. If playing a game for Motherwell is truly expected to garner IRS SIGCOV, then I guess draftifying is also an option. JoelleJay (talk) 08:34, 3 December 2021 (UTC)*don't delete Ross Tierney Here here is proof from Motherwell's own website


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