Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rouslan Saghabalyan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:50, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Rouslan Saghabalyan

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 * Delete. Non-notable person and the WP is that little bit better off without a page of such poor quality. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 21:35, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:46, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:46, 7 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  →TSU tp* 09:28, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MacMedtalk stalk 14:13, 20 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment We currently have several problems here.
 * Firstly, the article has been expanded very significantly since it was nominated for deletion - from a short lead and otherwise a load of headings with no actual article sections, the missing article sections have been added within the last few days by the original editor and an IP editor (both apparently SPAs but not, judging by the article, ones with any significant conflict of interest). What we have now looks like an approximate translation of the Russian Wikipedia article (apparently written by the original editor here) by someone with decent but not perfect English.
 * Secondly, the editors have little idea of Wikipedia standards. While the fact that all the article's current external links are in Russian is only a practical problem, the fact that none of them look particularly reliable could be a killer. But of course the fact that an article's current sources are not relaible does not mean that there are no reliable sources out there.
 * But this brings up a third problem. In my experience, a contemporary Russian author can have a career that would be sufficient to guarantee notability for their American or English equivalent, and scarcely get a mention in any readily available English-language sources. It looks very possible, though far from certain, that the subject of this article is in precisely that position - in which case, we really need someone able to trawl through Russian (and possibly Armenian) searches.
 * And fourthly - the article creator's choice for transliterating the subject's name into English was not a good one. A more common transliteration, Ruslan Sagabalyan, produces a mention or two of him as an up-and-coming 1980s Soviet science fiction writer and apparently this translation, from the same period, of one of his stories. And there may well be other transliterations worth trying - to say nothing of the Russian and Armenian versions of his name and the pseudonym mentioned in the article. So any or all the following (and more) might be worth trying:, , , , , ,.
 * Anyone willing and able to help? If nobody is in a position to do so by the end of the AfD, then I'm inclined to suggest incubating the article for a while and searching for volunteers. PWilkinson (talk) 20:39, 23 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:21, 28 June 2012 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.