Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Route 309A (Florida) (second nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was rename. W.marsh 01:38, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Route 309A (Florida)


This article has been nominated before in September. (Prior AfD here.) Since September, the article has not been touched. The article is still a one-sentence stub about a road claiming to be a Florida State Road when in actuality it isn't. (According to SPUI's comments in the prior AfD it's now County Road 308B.) It is a non-notable former state highway that doesn't fall under the precedent (which I agree with) of keeping all state highways. NORTH talk 21:01, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * This will contradict the "keep all roads" policy that I have admittedly adopted, but delete unless the article is significantly expanded and the importance of the road is made clear. Optionally, the road could also be moved to represent its current status as CR 308B and expanded upon, including a mention of "Route" (whatever type of route it was, as this fact is not clear either) 309A in the history. But as it stands right now, I would support its deletion, not because of its short length, but because it has not been altered in any way since the last AfD, which tells me personally that no one was willing to add to the article, even when it is on the verge of deletion. -- T M F Let's Go Mets - Stats 22:06, 4 November 2006 (UTC) Now that enough information has been added to the article to determine what the route was/is and where the route is located, I say rename to County Route 308B (Putnam County, Florida) or County Road 308B (Putnam County, Florida), depending on what other Florida CRs are named . -- T M F Let's Go Mets - Stats 21:06, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable road. Kavadi carrier 04:48, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Unless multiple independent sources are shown to have written about the road. I do not see how every road in the world is deserving of an encyclopedia article. Edison 04:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Rename County Road 308B (Putnam County, Florida). Sorry about the non-conventional vote, but this one threw me for a loop.  I think all highways are notable... but this FORMER highway?  I'm surprised that there was no improvement of this since the last AfD.  But I did a couple of things. I learned it is an actual road and added its current status... which is no longer Route 309A and now County Road 308B... and added a citation (I even kept it cached so you can find it in the link!).  I say rename this and include its former designation of Route 309A in the article  --Oakshade 04:57, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, and the WikiProject Florida State Roads folks should give their wisdom on this (left message on talk page). --Oakshade 05:02, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Is it "Country Road 308B" or "County Road 308B"? -- T M F Let's Go Mets - Stats 19:08, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * County Road. --NE2 20:36, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I am very sorry, "Country" was a typo. It's "County Road 308B" --Oakshade 22:50, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment - With regards to the former highway question, Wikipedia is supposed to be timeless and not have a bias to current items. So a former highway has just a right to have an article as a current one.  --Holderca1 01:34, 10 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Rename per Oakshade NE2. Well at least off the "Route x (Florida)" standard as that is just a bad way of naming things, as it doesn't conform to P1 or even P2. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 18:44, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Now that someone's added enough context to the article to figure out where it is, merge with Putnam County, Florida per WP:LOCAL. JYolkowski // talk 16:11, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Disagree, transportation stuff should never be merged with the article. What would happen if we merged every Interstate and U.S. Route article with United States? --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 21:29, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I think you've inadvertently misinterpreted my argument. The reason I suggest a merge is because there's not a lot of information in the article and the road probably isn't too significant outside the local community.  Articles on Interstates typically have lots more information so there's no need to merge.  Having said that, we could merge them if we really felt like it.  Per Summary style, we'd probably have to break that stuff out into a new article on its own though.  JYolkowski // talk 23:05, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep or rename. This was a state road; see Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Currentness?. --NE2 20:36, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Rename to county road... --Holderca1 23:09, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment It appears that User:Florida Route Numbers created a vast amount of mis-named Floridian road stubs like this. Salad Days 21:04, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was aware of those other articles when I nominated this one. My plan was to nominate a single article for deletion to see where community opinion lay. This weekend when I have some time, I'll close this discussion (unless someone else beats me to it), move this page, and move all the other ones created by that user provided I can find an appropriate destination for them.  If I can't figure out where they're supposed to be, then those leftover ones I'll nominate again, and maybe someone else can provide the necessary information as they've done here. -- NORTH talk 00:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I just moved a few, some of them I am not sure of and would have to do a little research. They say they are a county road, but don't say the county it is in.  --Holderca1 01:31, 10 November 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.