Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rowan Grebe


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of Eastern Province representative cricketers. Missvain (talk) 03:54, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Rowan Grebe

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This fails WP:NSPORT which says "In addition, the subjects of standalone articles should meet the General Notability Guideline." and "Trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may be used to support content in an article, but it is not sufficient to establish notability. This includes listings in database sources with low, wide-sweeping generic standards of inclusion, such as Sports Reference's college football and basketball databases." Notability not established with substantive sources for continued bulk-creation of non-notable perma-substubs. Reywas92Talk 06:23, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 06:57, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of South Africa-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 06:57, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 06:57, 23 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Redirect to the relevant "list of..." article. Note also that there was a previous RfC about the the criteria of WP:NSPORT here are too inclusive. It states that the subject-specific notability guideline do not replace or supercedes GNG, it also closed with the note of "As with the RfC on secondary school notability, this should not be an invitation to "flood AfD with indiscriminate or excessive nominations", which is now what is happening.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 09:02, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect with any relevant information merged to List of Eastern Province representative cricketers. This has been established as a reasonable compromise over a period of time and articles like this where there is clearly some notability but not enough evidence of clear sourcing to maintain a stand alone article. I'm not convinced that, given the usual outcome, that it's a good idea to be sending this sort of article to AfD. Blue Square Thing (talk) 18:57, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm going to be honest and say their is a thing call WP:BOLD where you could just redirect it (after doing a WP:BEFORE check). Also yeah it passes WP:NCRIC but until it reaches enough to have it's own separate article. I would say to Redirect HawkAussie (talk) 03:26, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect to List of Eastern Province representative cricketers. Fails all meaningful notability guidelines. NCRIC only provides a very weak presumption of notability for domestic cricketers and by consensus is unreliable, so GNG (and/or a different SNG) must be met. The only sources we have are databases which do not establish notability per SPORTCRIT. wjematherplease leave a message... 12:56, 24 December 2020 (UTC)


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