Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roy Abraham Varghese


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Delete. A self-written biography is useless without third-party verification in a significant form; similarly, brief mentions and soundbites, even in a lot of places, is not enough. WP:BLP1E takes priority; I would advise anyone, in any AfD, of any opinion, that one of the hallmarks of a good argument is to actually address the opposition. This hasn't been done. Ironholds (talk) 19:20, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Roy Abraham Varghese

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This person does not seem to be notable. He is mainly known for just one thing, ghostwriting one book, which led to some minor controversy. Kitfoxxe (talk) 14:10, 11 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete, or alternatively merge into Antony Flew per WP:BLP1E. No significant third-party coverage beyond that single controversy. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 14:22, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:40, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep at this point. The main problem is the unacceptable sourcing to works by the subject of the author, which makes it look promotional. If the article cannot be referenced to secondary and tertiary sources, then merging might be an option. Varghese has received quotes, citations and mentions in literature and press sufficient to establish notability. Google Books alone returns some 2500 results in books (many, though not all, works from a theistic viewpoint). Perhaps an interim solution might be to simply delete unsupported statements (i.e., including those statements currently flagged as needing better sources) and return the article to stub status with a notice on the talk page until better sourced material can be provided. &bull; Astynax talk 19:07, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep&mdash;well, if his biography is to believed, he appears at least somewhat notable.&mdash;RJH (talk) 23:23, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The point of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" is that such topic-self-published 'biographies' are not to be taken as demonstrating notability. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 05:05, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:BLP1E; in depth coverage in independent sources is pretty much lacking. Varghese does not qualify under WP:AUTHOR. - 2/0 (cont.) 16:51, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
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