Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Roy Greenhilt


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Characters of the Order of the Stick. Redirecting as the consensus is to merge and redirect Fritzpoll (talk) 10:09, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Roy Greenhilt

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This article and all related articles consist entirely of plot summaries, with no indication of notability. The first 50 hits on a google search failed to turn up anything besides forum posts and links to various wikis, indicating a lack of notability. McJeff (talk) 19:14, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages because they are all character articles with the same issues as the initially nominated one:



McJeff (talk) 19:15, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Webcomics-related deletion discussions.  --  I 'mperator 20:02, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep or Merge to Order of the Stick The characters themselves ARE pretty notable. At worst, I would suggest slapping on a tag requesting for more information other than the plot. Cheers.  I 'mperator 20:04, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * BTW, for those interested, I would suggest first adding a section on influence on common culture, whether it be mentions in magazines/book/etc or slogans adopted by many. Cheers.  I 'mperator 20:06, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge All to Order of the Stick article (in extremely reduced form). The telling point for me is that all of the 'citations' are to individual pages/strips of the webcomic, so no specific notability has been established about these characters beyond their source.  The Artful Dodger has a cultural identity beyond the book Oliver Twist.  Roy Greenhilt, based on this article, has nothing of the kind.  If, as ImperatorExercitus suggests, a cited section can be added justifying this character beyond TOtS, great.  Until then, delete the unnecessary plot summary and (probably OR) analysis of personality traits, and merge what's left back to the main article. -Markeer 21:13, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I will need to think about this one. These articles are all terrible targets for cruft.  I somehow got Vaarsuvius onto my watchlist, and pretty much all I ever do there is revert fanboy junk.  But being a target for cruft (or spam, or vandalism, or anything else) is not in of itself a rationale for deletion, so I'll sleep on it and weigh the various stuff. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 21:57, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I've slept on it, and the answer is Merge together (as opposed to merging upwards into the main OOTS article). The OOTS article already has a long and, frankly, somewhat messy characters section, and merging all this content there would be a disaster; to shorten these enough to make a merge appropriate, we'd be essentially shortening them down to what's already there, which would be no different than deleting.  On the other hand, merging into Characters of Order of the Stick or something like that would be workable.  We could do it something like the Megatokyo characters articles (which are also atrocious, but whatevs). r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 05:42, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep or Merge into a much shorter single article. I don't believe that this information belongs in the main article, as that is about the correct length, so a seperate plot summary article makes sense.  I am absolutely against deletion, that's a very heavy handed approach to articles that obviously have a tremendous amount of editor support (look at the logs) and have a tremendous amount of peer review.  I will grant that every one of them is far too long, and could use some radical editing, but deletion - no.  Timmccloud (talk) 22:08, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge all into either the main article or an article on the characters--in reduced form. Quite sufficient coverage for the subjects. Anyone wants to know more, they know where they can find the material. DGG (talk) 23:16, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge all to a list of characters Heck of a comic, but I don't think sourcing or actual notability requires that much coverage at this time.  I'd rather keep than merge to the base article however. Hobit (talk) 03:16, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect all to Characters of the Order of the Stick, where interested editors may merge relevant information from the page history. It would be too much to ask from the closing admin to trim the character articles to WP:DUE length and merge. – sgeureka t•c 11:12, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect all to Characters of the Order of the Stick. I like the series, but wikipedia articles are not the place to painfully go over every detail of the plot. Once you remove that and trim the rest, you are left with 2-3 paragraphs top. (for doing the merge you can copy/paste the lead and "Personality, traits and abilities". The "The Order of the Stick Adventure Game" section should be merged to The_Order_of_the_Stick. --Enric Naval (talk) 04:01, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.