Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Royal Mail Choir


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 15:58, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Royal Mail Choir

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Article about a workplace choir that was formed at Bristol Royal Mail Sorting Office to take part in a BBC 2 TV series, The Choir: Sing While You Work. It's the normal practise to redirect or merge articles about reality show participants unless they have a notable career outside of the show. I don't really see how this choir is any different, they released a charity song for download but there's no evidence it charted or had noticeable success. Sionk (talk) 22:45, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Clearly meets WP:NMUSIC. Not "reality show participants" - have been a performing choir since formation, nationally and internationally and their work is currently fronting the national, prime-time TV campaign for the Royal Mail. Blackberry Sorbet (talk • contribs) 01:11, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The Choir is unambiguously a reality TV series. And how do they clearly meet any criteria of WP:NMUSIC? Sionk (talk) 01:58, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * The Choir was a documentary series and talent competition. The Royal Mail Choir are a choral ensemble. They have continued to perform,, , nationally and internationally, and have been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself. See OUTCOMES. Blackberry Sorbet (talk • contribs) 11:21, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Talent shows aren't documentaries. The choirs were put together for the TV show, they didn't exist beforehand. And the international performance was at a private Post Office event. Sionk (talk) 12:16, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep Meets criteria 1 of WP:NMUSIC. Clearly. John from Idegon (talk) 06:07, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Brief coverage and mentions at best if you access the news sources. Most are about the postal workers from around the country who were picked to feature in the advertising campaign (not singing). Far from clear. It looks like the author was packing the article with news articles to create the impression of in-depth coverage. Sionk (talk) 12:38, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Comment Don't bludgeon the process. Blackberry Sorbet (talk • contribs) 12:49, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Ouch! Sionk (talk) 14:12, 11 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep Clearly notable per WP:NMUSIC. Extensively (even excessively) footnoted, therefore meets WP:V as well. Scolaire (talk) 14:59, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. I see significant coverage in multiple, independent reliable sources. I think Blackberry Sorbet put it best. Ritchie333  (talk)  (cont)   11:16, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
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