Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Royganj M.L High School


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 03:53, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

Royganj M.L High School

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I could find zero independent sources to prove that the high school actually exists. High schools are generally kept but this particular case, I couldn't find anything on the web. This user has uploaded some pictures at commons claiming to be the school but the images doesn't demonstrate the existence of the school.  Jim Car  ter  11:20, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions.  Jim  Car  ter  11:33, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions.  Jim  Car  ter  11:34, 29 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep. Benefit of the doubt (AGF). The photo is quite clearly identifiable as a school building in tropical or sub-tropical Asia, it will be unlikely that all schools in developing countries have web sites or even much written about them on he Internet (they certainly don't here in Thailand which is nevertheless more developed than some parts of Europe). High School articles, in so far as they are not blatantly promotional, are hardly toxic. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:45, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Here the question is not if it is promotional or toxic, I cleaned the article myself. But the question is if the article is a hoax (or coined) or not. I challenge that the article is a hoax and I don't know how anyone can prove me wrong. The pictures are not a solid proof of existence, I can take similar pictures and claim it as school. It is not even a source that can prove that they are school. In India every old building looks like that school. I could find zero sources on the web or anywhere. AGF is not a solid argument when the existence of the subject is in question. As WP:OUTCOMES even mentions that: "high schools are usually kept *except* when zero independent sources can be found to prove that the institution actually exists."  Jim  Car  ter  16:18, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Even I would have been positive if I could have found the name of the school on Google Maps, any school not even in Google Map whereas other schools around that location are listed. I'm skeptic about the subject's existence.  Jim  Car  ter  16:25, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
 * On a deeper look, even the existence of this "Royganj" village is disputed, I could only find the Upazila on the map.  Jim  Car  ter  16:30, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi . The idea behind my comment is 'AGF'. That means not automatically assuming it not to exist and definitely not going so far as to assume it to be a hoax. I appreciate your concern but I don't think we can suggest that every unverifiable article is an invention, particularly when they come from regions known not to be as technically developed as others. I think the likelihood of a hoax to be extremely slim. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:00, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello again . I don't believe that we keep unverifiable articles on Wikipedia. One of the fundamental policy is verifiability. I would never have tagged it for AfD in the first place if I have found at least a single source identifying the school. But that is not the case, AGF is a guideline and V, RS are all long standing policies. I don;t know how I can make an exception in this particular case.  Jim  Car  ter  09:33, 1 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete per DEL8 for lack of notability under NSCHOOLS, the relevant guideline, as there is absolutely no coverage of the subject. A fundamental principle of notability is that "there must be verifiable, objective evidence that the subject has received significant attention from independent sources to support a claim of notability"; furthermore, "[n]o subject is automatically or inherently notable merely because it exists: The evidence must show the topic has gained significant independent coverage or recognition, and that this was not . . . a result of promotional activity or indiscriminate publicity . . . ." Also, "once an article's notability has been challenged, merely asserting that unspecified sources exist is seldom persuasive, especially if time passes and actual proof does not surface." The community has clearly and recently expressed its unwillingness to relax these standards in response to systemic biases, such as a lack of coverage for subjects in developing countries. Wikipedia is not a directory, even of harmless subjects like schools. Rebb  ing  16:24, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. Ⓩⓟⓟⓘⓧ (talk) 16:25, 1 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep per longstanding consensus at AfD that high schools of confirmed existence are considered notable on a per se basis, like populated places, highways, mountains, and rivers. Carrite (talk) 01:55, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * , WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES states that "Most independently accredited degree-awarding institutions and high schools are usually kept except when zero independent sources can be found to prove that the institution actually exists". This is a case where zero sources exist, so the action consistent with long-standing consensus would be to delete. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:08, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I will yield the point and get out of the way on this one. Carrite (talk) 14:55, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Yellow Dingo&#160;(talk) 00:14, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:VERIFY, with no sources provided in the article or found during the course of this discussion. Cordless Larry (talk) 03:32, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete or merge -Chandaikona M.L High School is the actual high school which is located in Raiganj Upazila. This name may be a variation of spelling Raiganj.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 13:36, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment If this is a legitimate school, there may be Bengali language references. I found the corresponding article in the Bengali Wikipedia by looking at the images in commmons. I'm also not sure if this is the same school as Chandaikona M.L High School mentioned above. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 02:12, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Left a note at User:Moheen Reeyad's talk page. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 02:17, 15 October 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.