Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rua (band)


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The result was keep. ansh 666 06:56, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Rua (band)

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Ineligible for PROD due to previous PROD. I can't find enough sources to show that this band passes WP:NBAND or WP:GNG.

I checked Google, GBooks, GNews, JSTOR, Highbeam, and Newspapers.com and failed to find any in-depth sources covering them. Although there is some local coverage from this year mentioning their reunion, there is nothing indicating a wider interest as required by WP:N. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 14:26, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Merry Christmas! Baby miss  fortune 14:32, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Definitely non notable. As a NZer I have never heard of them ever. Ajf773 (talk) 19:51, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * That not a criteria for notability. There are objective criteria, such as WP:MUSIC. Ifnord (talk) 15:15, 24 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I will recuse myself from this discussion, having worked with them. dramatic (talk) 21:05, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Quickfingers (talk) 17:19, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep: Meets WP:BAND. Partly the problem is that their heyday was early/pre-internet era, so a lot of coverage is in print newspaper articles not indexed on Google. Partly it's a matter of searching properly. (Just searching on "rua" will get you a lot of chaff because "rua" is Maori for "two.") eg:
 * – This newspaper article from May 2017 has several sentences about Rua in the context of former members getting together again in a band "Toru" (Maori for "three"): The “Crossing Borders” tour reignites a 25-year musical association between Denny Stanway, James Wilkinson and Davy Stuart from Rua, the much-lauded Christchurch Celtic band formed by Stanway’s husband, the late Jimmy Young. / Media liaison Diana Moir said it seemed a logical progression from Rua days, when the band built up a significant fanbase performing at major music festivals throughout the world, recording multiple albums and being the recipients of two New Zealand Music Awards, and touring several times with Arts On Tour New Zealand. / Rua called it a day several years ago, but now...
 * – This newspaper article from June 2017 discussing the same tour.
 * – This 1991 NZ Herald item probably mentions their winning of "Best Folk Album" at the NZ Music Industry Awards.
 * – This 1996 NZ Herald item probably also mentions them at the NZ Music Awards.
 * — Gpc62 (talk) 18:56, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Which criteria does it meet WP:BAND? Ajf773 (talk) 09:25, 20 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep. The only band to have twice won Best Folk Album at the New Zealand Music Awards. The first win, in 1990 (for 1989), was for The Commonwealth Suite which the band's founder was specially commissioned to write in celebration of New Zealand's 150th Anniversary. Some sources for these items:, , , , , , , , . The wiki article is sadly neglected but can easily be improved with these links plus other careful searching. As mentioned above, a difficult Google search because the short word "rua" is not sufficient, and so other keywords need to be added (but not in the same quotation marks, and "band" isn't always the best keyword to add). The founder's name, Jimmy Young, might be a good keyword to add. SunChaser (talk) 11:50, 20 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Some additional informational links (some are about the reunion and tour):, , , , , , , , , , , , , . SunChaser (talk) 12:53, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Clearly passes WP:MUSIC and, with the references cited by SunChaser, it appears to pass WP:GNG as well. Ifnord (talk) 15:15, 24 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep Info could be found here ,,and .CASSIOPEIA (talk) 15:28, 25 December 2017 (UTC)


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