Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rubik's Cube in popular culture


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Going with keep. Please discuss merger (if you wish) on the talk page. Missvain (talk) 23:10, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Rubik's Cube in popular culture

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Pop culture trivia. While its impact on art seems notable, I feel that could be merged into the main article for rubik's cube, and the rest of the page seems trivial and non-encyclopedic, with entries such as "In the third season of Law & Order, Detectives Briscoe (Jerry Orbach) and Logan (Chris Noth) arrest a man who is playing with a Rubik's Cube on a bench." Waxworker (talk) 11:41, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 13:07, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
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 * At the point of Rubik's Cube in popular culture the style of the article changes completely. It is as if there's a real article buried under all of the laundry lists above it.  I wonder what the article would look like without the unsourced laundry lists. Uncle G (talk) 13:32, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It turns out that it looks like Special:Permalink/1019462476, a remarkably different-looking article. Uncle G (talk) 13:41, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I see that this was brought up 11 years ago at Talk:Rubik's Cube in popular culture and at one point the article looked like Special:Permalink/376764809. Uncle G (talk) 14:01, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions. North America1000 18:15, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Need clear consensus over merge or keep
 * Keep but obviously needs cleanup from the above and inline with WP:TRIVIA. In terms of appearances in TV and films, there's probably some entries that are more critical than others - for example, its appearance in Ready Player One is more plot-relevant than just a background object, but again, we should rely on sourcing to help back those up. --M asem (t) 18:20, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge a non-crufty version as provided by Uncle G to Rubik's Cube. The current article can handle that much content without making it overwhelmingly large, and it can always be split out into its own article again (hopefully under a better title) should the weight of the section become too much. The current rendition of the article is unsuitable for Wikipedia, and I think refocusing it within the context of the main article is probably the best bet to keep it from devolving again. TTN (talk) 18:26, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I didn't provide it. Other editors have already done this.  I do agree that positioning this as a break-out sub-article of Rubik's Cube is wrong.  It's wrong for the article as it stands, let alone for the article without the laundry lists.  Note that this article was a merger from Rubik's Cubism (c.f. User:SDRitchey777/RubikCubism) where quite a lot of the non-laundry-list content came from (see also Special:Diff/300998141 from the same author).  Uncle G (talk) 04:56, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge combined article size is plenty smaller than max 50kb prosesize and a single article can cover area in a more nuanced way. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:32, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge, pretty much as has already been stated: The article needs cleanup, but there are instance of appearances in popular culture that are worth keeping, the article has content worth WP:PRESERVEing, and secondary sources for some of the entries can be found. Daranios (talk) 15:47, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kichu🐘 Need any help? 12:57, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep with the note AfD is not really the place to determine the keep-or-merge part (that would be a merge discussion). I'm inclined to think it works fine as a standalone with a trim (as Masem notes, there are perfectly valid entries added after Uncle G's linked version, and it's pretty likely a merged compromise-version would create an unbalanced article), but in AfD terms the question is "do we want to delete this or not?", and we clearly don't. Vaticidalprophet 13:17, 1 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep It's easy to find more sources such as this and so it passes WP:LISTN and WP:ATD, "If editing can improve the page, this should be done rather than deleting the page." Andrew🐉(talk) 18:47, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge with Rubik's Cube: per Uncle G, a non-crufty version makes sense to merge CommanderWaterford (talk) 09:11, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Rewrite and keep or merge per Uncle G's draft. Effectively WP:TNT those mess then replace with what Uncle G already did. Merge is also an option. Currently Rubik's Cube is missing 'in popular culture' section entirely. It would make sense to start one there and split the article as stand-alone only once it grows too large. The current laundy list, mostly unreferenced, is fancrufty trivia and should be pruned. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:18, 7 May 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.