Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rudolf Christmann


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. I discount the keep !vote, which does not discuss how the article is able to meet Wikipedia's article guidelines and policies. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 02:17, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Rudolf Christmann

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"Rudolf Christmann (10 January 1900 – 27 June 2007) served in both World Wars. He was the oldest living German during the last month of his life."

with no sources. He hardly seems notable even if he was the oldest German at some point, which seems doubtful at 107. Legacypac (talk) 09:22, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.   Musa Talk  ☻ 12:03, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions.   Musa Talk  ☻ 12:03, 18 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep and expand. -- WV ● ✉ ✓  17:07, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:27, 18 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Update I've searched Google with "Rudolf Christmann" and then with his birthdate too (to filter out noise given that he is allegedly famous for being old). Every single hit is mirror of this page. I started to think this mention which has no details and no sources but  here we can see its based on Wikipedia too. It appears he is not mentioned at German wikipedia  which would be a good place for the alleged oldest person in Germany to be noted. However I did track down the genesis of this article  where these pieces of OR are enlightening  . Calling his granddaughter and checking with another Wikipedia editor who (off wiki) confirmed he died is not how we usually build articles.Legacypac (talk) 03:15, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete as failing WP:N based on a complete lack of non-trivial, reliable, third-party sources. Legacypac's comment above suggests strongly that this inability to find sources is based on their nonexistence, rather than some fault in our searching abilities. Canadian   Paul  17:56, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  20:53, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * WV's vote seems based on another agenda and not any analysis of the article. If an Admin could look at the article and evidence presented, this is an easy delete close. Legacypac (talk) 12:03, 30 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. What is asserted here is not notability.  DGG ( talk ) 06:50, 31 January 2016 (UTC)


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