Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rufus Griscom (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 02:29, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Rufus Griscom
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Internet businessman who does not seem to meet WP:NOTABILITY, although his website Babble.com seems to be reasonably notable. Article has been in current state for four years. The article does not cite any sources, and all I can find through Google books is and, which are pretty borderline. Concerning the previous AFD consensus, I am not sure whether the individual's historical coverage is necessarily related to current notability. Claritas (talk) 16:32, 4 May 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:27, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Weak delete - though notability is not temporary, this person's fame is tied to Nerve (website) and Babble.com and the article lacks sources to verify or establish notability. Since coverage of the person does not extend much beyond that, I would argue to delete or possibly redirect to Babble.com.--137.122.49.102 (talk) 18:36, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:11, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete dude who made a website, but of whom there's really nothing that can be said, in an encyclopedic context anyway. Redirecting to his website is an option, but I feel that would set rather a bad precedent. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  01:39, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep head of a notable website is notable.  DGG ( talk ) 01:52, 11 May 2010 (UTC)!
 * Delete per WP:BURDEN: "If no reliable third-party sources can be found on a topic, Wikipedia should not have an article on it." Reliable sources have published material on Babble.com and Nerve, but not Rufus Griscom. Also see WP:NOTINHERITED: "Similarly, parent notability should be established independently; notability is not inherited 'up', from notable subordinate to parent, either: not every manufacturer of a notable product is itself notable." — Satori Son 14:23, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. As above, notability can not merely be inherited from his website without anything more. --Mkativerata (talk) 21:40, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
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