Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Russel Hobbs


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Gorillaz. Star  Mississippi  03:17, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Russel Hobbs

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What makes this fictional character/musician notable? This article has no reception section, mentions seem in passing (fail WP:SIGCOV) or are niche reviews/comments on a piece of fiction (interview/character fictional biography) released to promote his fictional band. As such, this article seems to fail WP:GNG. A summary of this could be merged to Gorillaz, which is very bare-bones at present. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 03:33, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Music. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here  03:33, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment I remember there was a deletion discussion for Noodle (from the same V-band) and I think it ended no consensus. Personally I think they should all be covered at the parent article but I would want it to be a single unified merge— having articles for some members but not others of a fictional group with only four (consistent) characters in it is kind of silly.
 * Dronebogus (talk) 07:40, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment - here is the link to the prior AFD. Articles for deletion/Noodle (character) (Oinkers42) (talk) 16:15, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * @Dronebogus We have to start somewhere. It's totally plausible some of the band members are notable and others are not. The section in their article should provide a decent summary for all, and the ones which are notable can keep their dedicated articles. Not seeing anything silly here :) Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 02:57, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per rationale above. At the very least this is a completely plausible redirect, so nomination for deletion seems to nominate WP:BEFORE. Dronebogus (talk) 07:42, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep - The article has a lot of information about the character on the article and it has been lasting for 17 years, so leave it there, just like 2-D, Murdoc Niccals, and Noodle still remain on the website. RTSthestardust (talk) 21:23, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, WP:ITSLONG... Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 02:56, 24 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Merge to Gorillaz. Fictional character Hobbs fails WP:GNG because nothing has been written about him apart from being in the band. Hobbs is not discussed by himself in WP:SECONDARY sources; he's only discussed in the context of the band. All the other character articles should also be merged to Gorillaz: 2-D (character), Noodle (Gorillaz) and Murdoc Niccals. All four of the character articles are in violation of Manual of Style/Writing about fiction which requires us to focus primarily on how the fictional character intersects with the real world. All four have too much in-universe focus. Binksternet (talk) 01:16, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge per above. The sources cover this character as part of the whole band, and not as a separately notable entity. Shooterwalker (talk) 12:36, 24 February 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.