Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Russian Catholic Church (disambiguation)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Redirect somewhere. It's clear that this shouldn't stay as a dab page. It should be redirected to either Russian Greek Catholic Church or Catholic Church in Russia, but I don't see any consensus which of those should be the primary, and which should hatnote the other. Since this clearly isn't going to end up deleting the page, the details can be worked out on the talk pages. -- RoySmith (talk) 01:24, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Russian Catholic Church (disambiguation)

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WP:TWODABS disambiguation page that does not disambiguate anything, but rather merely lists a topic, and its own subtopic, as evidenced by the fact that the subtopic, Russian Greek Catholic Church, is already discussed in Catholic Church in Russia indicating its status as a subsidiary body of the latter. There is nothing here that can not be resolved in a hatnote. bd2412 T 23:41, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:01, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:01, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:01, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment Just because one topic is a subtopic of another doesn't necessarily mean that an ambiguous term couldn't be appropriately directed at either the topic or the subtopic, nor that the main topic is inherently the most likely target of the ambiguous term.  In this case what are you suggesting as the primary topic, and why do you think it more likely? --Bejnar (talk) 02:46, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Russian Catholic Church is a longstanding redirect to Russian Greek Catholic Church (which was originally at Russian Catholic Church, until it was moved in 2012); that status has never since been disputed. Even if the there were no primary topic between the two, that would not make the term ambiguous; rather, it would make it necessary to create a WP:DABCONCEPT article to explain the relationship between the terms, because such a relationship exists. Disambiguation pages list unrelated topics that coincidentally share the same name. Of course, if the DABCONCEPT function could be fulfilled in one of the existing articles, that would be the most efficient solution for readers, who would ideally generally find the information they need where the concept is explained. bd2412  T 03:22, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 06:02, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Catholic Church in Russia, a hatnote is fine. Eddie891 Talk Work 12:46, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Suggestion: Eddie891 and bd2412  seem to be at odds as to which is the primary topic. At least  bd2412  gave a reason for the choice; and absent a compelling reason from Eddie891, I think we should go with Russian Greek Catholic Church as primary, especially if it is edited so that the DABCONCEPT function is fulfilled in that article. --Bejnar (talk) 01:58, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
 * From what bd2412 said, I got the impression that Russian Greek Catholic Church is a subtopic of Catholic Church in Russia. Eddie891 Talk Work 11:56, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
 * There is already a "see also" section hatnote to Russian Greek Catholic Church at Catholic Church in Russia. Clearly there is some relationship between the topics, rather than mere ambiguity from the coincidence of sharing a name. bd2412  T 16:05, 30 September 2018 (UTC)


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