Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Russism (ideology)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. A number of policy-based issues were raised relative to the notability of an article on the term, on the ideology, and the neutrality of the article. Additional non-policy-based arguments were made and given low weight. There was a signficant consensus that the term does not reach WP:NEO. There was also a rough consensus that the ideology was at best covered if at all in other articles (usually Putinism was suggested), and the only voices discussing the neutrality of the page considered it an attack page. As such, there is no argument for preserving the content here, and there is a consensus for deletion, without prejudice against inclusion of some discussion of the term at other existing articles, if done in a neutral way, nor with prejudice against a pointer to said content in the already existing Russism disambiguation page. j⚛e deckertalk 18:25, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Russism (ideology)

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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. DonaldDuck (talk) 02:09, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. DonaldDuck (talk) 02:09, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Neologism and attack page. Similar to recently deleted Articles for deletion/Russiasm DonaldDuck (talk) 01:58, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Refuse russian censors in Wikipedia.--Dim Grits 08:55, 30 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dim Grits (talk • contribs)

"Ivanov-Sukharevsky was largely supportive of Vladimir Putin when he was first elected as President of Russia, describing him as an 'indispensable and extremely important politician' and the 'hyper-link between Marxism and Russism', although adding that 'his ideology reflects the past stage of history'." – Suggesting WP:PRESERVE and WP:ATD-M OlegSmirnov (talk) 15:58, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:47, 30 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete, does not appear to be in wide enough use, sources lacking. Thargor Orlando (talk) 13:03, 31 March 2014 (UTC)


 * non-notable neologism, POV, lack of really strong sources. delete -- Postoronniy-13 (talk) 15:01, 3 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep it You can see many more references in Russian and Ukrainian versions of this article, from where additional information can be taken for the English verion. Ybelov (talk) 20:51, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Russian version had same Neologism, Attack page and WP:RS problems and is already deleted. --DonaldDuck (talk) 03:07, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep it If there is a term (this particular one has more than 50k hits in Russian google, at least since 2008), there should be an article, that is what wiki is about.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:A60:1573:7901:223:4EFF:FE75:5A0D (talk) 10:33, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. We have well sourced articles on Russian nationalism and Putinism to which this term could be redirected if it were in common use (I don't believe that it is).  As of now, the article is not necessary and it content is not appropriate for merger, being a poorly sourced neologism written up in a highly POV style.  Eluchil404 (talk) 06:25, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:34, 7 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete. If there is anything worth keeping it can be merged into Putinism.  Peacock (talk) 13:30, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep it. It is quite far from being a combination of Russian nationalism and/or Putinism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.107.5.211 (talk) 21:28, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete I can't speak to the quality of the Russian sources, but based on the English sources this seems like an attack page that relies on quasi-sources like policymic. The term "Russism" may deserve a mention though at Putinism. Orser67 (talk) 17:07, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Speedily, an important contemporary term which serves disambiguation for the modern Russian Anti-fascist movement. Exactly as Winston Churchill once said that "the fascists of the﻿ future will be called anti-fascists". Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 23:24, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. It is not in wide use, more likely to be an attack page. Roman Yankovsky (talk) 10:25, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete, does not appear to meet WP:NEO. Many of the keep votes here don't really advance an argument beyond "it exists, lets have an article", but the lack of credible sources using and defining this term presents serious WP:V problems.  If kept, the article needs to have its clear POV cleaned up; I don't like Putin either, but the bias in the article is pretty strong even to my eyes.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:33, 17 April 2014 (UTC).
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.