Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rustaveli cinema


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Tim Song (talk) 01:28, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Rustaveli cinema

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No indication of notability. References just show it exists not that there is a reason for it to be on Wikipedia noq (talk) 08:47, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Georgia (country)-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:03, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a prestige building at a prestige location, which is why it is discussed in the references. Cinemas of comparable size from that era in the United States or United Kingdom often have their own articles, even though they may have been demolished. - Eastmain (talk • contribs) 18:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep - apparently the nominator has not read the article. The references and the article have more to say about this cinema and the building than just that they exist. Демоны Врубеля/Vrubel&#39;s Demons (talk) 12:58, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment What are the claims to WP:Notability? noq (talk) 13:44, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. You should withdraw this bad faith nomination, as if your two successive speedy deletion nominations were not already bad enough. Демоны Врубеля/Vrubel&#39;s Demons (talk) 13:49, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Significant coverage has not been shown - some coverage has. I repeat my original question which you chose to ignore. What are the claims to notability. A claim to coverage is not a claim to notability. What makes this Cinema worthy of inclusion in an encyclopaedia? What is significant about it? - And that question is not just has somebody written about its existence. Instead of accusing me of bad faith, show why the article should be here. The original speedy nomination resulted in the article being userfied to allow you to do that. You added some details about people involved in the design and construction but still did not show why it should be here. noq (talk) 18:12, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Really, you nominated the article twice (sic!) for speedy deletion, despite the article having third-party references that clearly showed notability. In fact I could have added at least five more as literally every guide book on Tbilisi thinks that is worth mentioning the Rustaveli cinema, in the context of it being a historic building and being the premier film theater in Tbilisi. And I am only talking about English language references, which are very thin when it comes to Georgia to begin with. No wonder we have dozens of articles on movie theaters in New York or London, but none on Tbilisi. Good job noq for making sure that Wikipedia has everything about Pokemon and every single shack in the US, but next to nothing about countries such as Georgia. If you think that the premier cinema in a historic building on the main boulevard of the national capital has no place on Wikipedia then go on. But then what we would be left with here on Wikipedia would be articles on places and buildings in the US. Демоны Врубеля/Vrubel&#39;s Demons (talk) 19:03, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. The sources in the article along with others found by the Google Books and Google News searches linked above amount to significant coverage in independent reliable sources, and, contrary to the nominator's statement above, a claim to such coverage is a claim to our definition of notability, which doesn't depend on any subjective notion of importance. Having said that the cinema is important for its architecture and interior decoration, as well as for being at one time the only functioning cinema in a major city. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:01, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Both the cinema and the building which houses it are clearly notable. The cinema is also discussed in the sources retrievable from Google Books .--KoberTalk 19:41, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
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