Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ruvu, Town


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Nice save. I'm going to move to the title suggested by Milowent, but that's not part of the close. --j⚛e deckertalk 00:01, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Ruvu, Town

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No verified sources ProudNitro (talk) 09:27, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:43, 27 June 2014 (UTC)


 * There are multiple "Ruvus" in Tanzania and I can't find one that is "near to Dar es Salaam." If this can be proven to be a population center/town as the article claims, I would opt to keep it.  But right now I can't find any verification.--Oakshade (talk) 03:57, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 04:40, 4 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Weak, weak keep. Delete Keep per sources found by Milowent. I finally found a mention here: "The other [railway] lines runs [sic] from Ruvu northward to Korogwe and then branches to Tanga port on the Indian ocean ...", and from the map in Central Line (Tanzania), it looks to be at about the right distance from Dar es Salaam. It's also mentioned here in this railway accident report as being "78km west of Dar-es-Salaam" and as a railway station in Patterns of Regional Geography: "There also exists a link between the Tanga Line and the Central Line between the stations of Mnyusi and Ruvu ..." These establish it's at least a station, though whether it's a town is a bit hazy . Addendum: Too hazy to warrant keeping. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:03, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete, given the difficulty of actually proving the existence and location of this down, I think we can't really write an article per WP:V. I'd take a guess that it's probably a siding or a junction rather than a settlement as such.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 07:27, 13 July 2014 (UTC).
 * I suspect there is a town there at what appears to be an important railroad junction, but without any corroboration, I'm changing my lvote. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:38, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Previous vote struck, I'm now Keep per User:Milowent. I'm still a bit uncomfortable with including the coordinates, which although plausible feels like WP:OR to me, but I'm not going to quibble about it.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 13:03, 22 July 2014 (UTC).


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 08:32, 13 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment. The location information found by Clarityfiend above (78 km west of Dar-es-Salaam, near a railway junction), along with a label for the railway station on Open Street Maps, indicates that this is almost certainly the settlement visible on satellite maps at -6.8093°N, 38.6568°W. Whether that, taken with the mentions cited by Clarityfiend, provides enough for verifiability, I won't venture to say. Deor (talk) 12:44, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep: Verified populated place.  Yes, it can be more difficult to reference locations in countries like Tanzania, but they often can be verified with some effort.  I've found and linked a 2005 government report which includes a Kibaha district map showing the location of the town which matches the coordinates we have.  I've also located the 2002 census page with the ward population. Let's move to Ruvu, Kibaha District once we close?--Milowent • hasspoken  17:42, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep per sources added by User:Milowent to the article providing verification. NorthAmerica1000 21:20, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.