Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ruy Lopez, Hopkins Gambit


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The result was   delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:55, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Ruy Lopez, Hopkins Gambit

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Apparent WP:HOAX. The reference Raymond Keene 2002 makes no mention of Hopkins and the book by Dennis McHale doesn't exist in any library search. No mention of Hopkins Gambit in any authoritative references. Created by the same sock/meat puppets responsible for Richard Hopkins (chess player). See related AFD for other evidence. — Cactus Writer (talk) 00:02, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 01:49, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. (I know there have been some non-WP:GNG chess openings articles that have went AfD, but is this the first example of a chess openings article *hoax* on the en.WP? Thx.) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 04:55, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per nominator. Should be listed at WP:List of hoaxes on Wikipedia. @Ihardlythinkso: the hoaxes page shows this is not the first one. Toccata quarta (talk) 05:05, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thx. (Looks like the recently AfD'd Rombaua Trap is the only other one then, if am reading it right.) Ok, Ihardlythinkso (talk) 07:50, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator Cobblet (talk) 06:16, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment Delete it for sure, but it's almost a misnomer to call it a complete hoax. I mean the moves themselves do exist, and the variations listed probably are the best continuations (though I am skeptical of g5). All you have to do really is get rid of the parts mentioning Hopkins and you transform a hoax article into simply a non-notable one. (What should we call this variation now? The formerly named Hopkins Gambit??) 11kowrom 06:23, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It hasn't any name other than "Ruy Lopez, Morphy Defence, 5.c4". Radkevic–Sumilin, USSR 1937 seems to be the only game resource. The analysis in the article has no ref source so it's reasonable to assume it is WP:OR which would make the article less than non-notable but unverifiable as well. Ihardlythinkso (talk) 12:03, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
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