Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ryan Avery (2nd nomination)


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The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Can&#39;t sleep, clown will eat me 05:40, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Ryan Avery
From the previous nomination: "Ryan Avery is apparently a local musician and comedian. He has received a few writeups in local papers. He/his bands are, as yet, unsigned. Google returns quite a few results for the name, but, on the first few pages at least, they appear to be for a different individual. Most of the supporting references are to pages created by or for Ryan Avery. I do not feel the subject is noteworthy or encyclopedic." Also, there is no entry in AMG and very few Google hits.&mdash;Chowbok 16:45, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete - notability issue 4.18GB 17:00, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak keep he's no chart-topper, but he appears to roughly meet WP:MUSIC: "Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or the local scene of a city". --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:41, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per BrownHairedGirl. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjo e  20:23, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment. Can someone tell me what local scene or notable style he is the most prominent representative of? &mdash;Chowbok 21:51, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The local scene would be Pheonix, AZ, the style would be avant garde noise. All the cited is infomation does check out in the article, and good points were raised in the previous nomination. RiseRobotRise 20:04, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. -- Kf4bdy talk contribs 02:52, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep per above RiseRobotRise 09:08, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete, with all due respect to BrownHairedGirl, unless he's "the most prominent", he doesn't meet WP:MUSIC. For the scene, the article merely asserts that he's "a prominent representative."  As for "notable style", noise is a notable style, but he's absolutely not the most prominent representative, and I don't see any evidence that the sub-sub-genre "avant-garde noise" is notable (or, in fact, anything more than a neologism), let alone any proof that he's its most prominent representative.  It's a bit borderline, as the previous AfD's "no concensus" shows, but I just don't think he's there.  Xtifr tälk 23:23, 29 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment interesting that you feel that way. The fact that he's a prominent representative of the scene and a genre should be worthy of WP:MUSIC. As far as you not seeing any evidence that "avant-garde noise" is a notable genre. A little research into the topic would reveal otherwise. | a quick google search yeilds about 27,000 results. The term "experimental noise" (which pretty much is another name for avant garde noise) would yield | 350,000 results Also other factors fall into the WP:MUSIC guidelines, as mentioned in the previous nomination. Such as this artist opening up for other well known acts, also articles written about him in such publications like CMJ, Phoenix New Times, and College Times. That garners notability, does it not? I think that the references and the cited sources should speak for themselves. RiseRobotRise 10:22, 30 October 2006 (UTC)


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