Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ryan Avery (speaker)


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The result was delete. Geschichte (talk) 11:37, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Ryan Avery (speaker)

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Promotional article about a non-notable businessperson. Declined a couple of times in AfC; no changes since the most recent decline, the article creator decided to move it into articlespace. The only claim to notability is winning the Toastmasters International championship of public speaking in 2012, but since that has not resulted in any significant coverage in independent sources, the person still doesn't meet WP:BASIC. A Guinness World Record (or even several) is not a sign of notability unless there is significant independent coverage in reliable sources, and again, there isn't. bonadea contributions talk 10:18, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. bonadea contributions talk 10:18, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. bonadea contributions talk 10:18, 4 September 2021 (UTC)


 * Note also that the article's creator has disclosed their COI, which means that they shouldn't have moved the draft to mainspace, but now that it is here I think it is just as well to determine whether Avery is notable. I have cleaned up the article a bit to remove some promotional links and text. --bonadea contributions talk 10:35, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. Sources used in the article lack independence and are therefore not considered reliable per our verifiability and notability standards. Article is largely self promotional. Fails WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 21:15, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  00:11, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. I agree that the tone is promotional. Neither the Toastmasters championship nor the Guinness world record automatically confer notability, and there does not appear to be significant independent coverage about the subject to support an article per WP:GNG. -- Kinu t/c 07:28, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - paid-for spam. MER-C 18:23, 17 September 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.