Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ryan Blair


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete per WP:V, WP:N, WP:BLP, WP:RS, WP:SOAP, and WP:COI. Sorry, but this person is just not "notable". Bearian (talk) 00:21, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Ryan Blair

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While this person may be notable, at least one article on Ryan Blair was already speedy deleted on Aug-24 due to A3. In addition, the user who created this article, User:Shannon Constantine Logan, is - according to her own blog - a "freelance copywriter and communications specialist." I suspect this is a work-for-hire; not sure if this technically violates WP:AUTOBIO but it certainly violates the spirit. Mr. Vernon (talk) 02:16, 26 August 2008 (UTC) Ryan is my mentor and boss. If I were trying to create a clever SEO piece, I would have at least concealed my identity, don't you think? My user email has Visalus at the end of it. I'd (personally) like to see Ryan on Wikipedia so the people he's reached out to through his speeches and appearances can easily find out more about him. Is this in conflict with the spirit of Wikipedia? Shannon —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shannon Constantine Logan (talk • contribs) 17:12, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Can't find verification in reliable sources. Companies run by subject have moderate WWW visibility but I can't find reliable sources covering them either, so I suspect some clever SEO -- and this article is obviously a part of that. Article reads like advertisement. Likely conflict of interest as noted by nominator. --N Shar (talk · contribs) 05:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * For info, the version I deleted as a copyvio of this had this message under the hangon from the author: "I work for Pathconnect. My boss is Ryan Blair. I'm one of the tech guys at the company and I was emailed this paragraph by his assistant and ask to post on wikipedia. What do I need to do for this not to get deleted?" If true, then suspicions of a work-for-hire may not be far from the mark. BencherliteTalk 08:00, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * See WP:Conflict of interest. Writing an article about someone you personally know well is rarely a good idea. – sgeureka t•c 17:45, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

If the entry is problematic for its source, then I guess there is nothing I can do. Content, I could change. But that doesn't seem to be the issue here. I apologize if I've wasted anyone's time; it didn't occur to me that it would be incorrect to write about someone I admire, but also happen to know. Anyway, at some point in the future, someone unrelated to him will probably write an entry. After all, he's in the public eye, and as you said-- notable. So I'm sure it will work out in the end. Thanks for your time, ShannonShannon Constantine Logan (talk) 18:08, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - Unverified by reliable sources. Conflicts of interest do not help. --Evb-wiki (talk) 17:46, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Shannon, you may not mean it like that, but it sounds like a not-so-veiled threat to have an "anonymous" user (you or someone else in the employ of Mr. Blair) create the page. That may not be a wise course of action. --Mr. Vernon (talk) 02:55, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Once again, I apologize if I wasted anyone's time for writing the entry. And I'm sorry that you deal with such nasty people on a daily basis that you actually think I was threatening you, when I was trying to say that it's fine if you delete it because maybe one of his fans someday will write one on him. Not a fan that I know, but someone that attended a seminar or who looked him up after reading his blog. A stranger. I feel like you're trying to pick a fight with me when I've already waved my white flag. Shannon Constantine Logan (talk) 20:23, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Article probably fails 4 and 5 of WP:SOAP. Google News mentions Blair briefly but in conjunction with Vidalus being bought out which may also be WP:BLP1E. Morbidthoughts (talk) 00:18, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


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